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OK, I know that I need some new roadie advice(10 posts)

OK, I know that I need some new roadie advicejwhite480
Jan 3, 2003 9:34 AM
Now that I have been convinced, by all the discussions, that I should use my hybrid on weekends to ride with my wife and that I should just go out and buy me a new road bike.

Here are some questions that I have:

1. I want to use the bike to get a good workout, plan on riding at least 2 centuries this year. Speed is as important as comfort. So do I look at road bikes or touring bikes?

2. I filled out one of those bike fitting charts, but other than some basics, I am still confused. How do I translate that into bike geometry? The LBS in my area all seem to have the idea of buy the best bike that I sell and we will fit you to it.

3. Since I blew almost $2000 on my hybrid and have ridden it only about 6 mos, my spouse isn't real excited about my running out and spending another $2000 on a road bike. So do I look for used bikes?

It seems that the best approach would be to figure out what bike models that I am interested in (maybe 3-6) and then to just start shopping for them...does this make sense?

Sorry to run on for so long, but am very interested in what you "more experienced" folks have to say.

thanks
John
some roadie adviceKeeponTrekkin
Jan 3, 2003 11:58 AM
1) Only buy a touring bike if you want to carry luggage on your centuries.

2) There's a lot of free fit advice you can find on this website or with links you'll find here. Read it; do the measurements carefully. Read geometry tables carefully. Sit on your current bike; measure it and identify the differences. Go to a shop or bug your friends and ride what you think is the right size. Those angles matter. There are some good posts here on the interrelation of STA and TTL. Determine how much further back or forward the current bike's seat is than the paper bike. Use that information to determine where the bars will be on the paper bike. How does it compare to the current bike?

3) This is a great place to find a used high end bike. (I did.) I think your proposed approach is exactly the right way to go. To elaborate on your approach, choose your preferred components group(s), wheel set, frame material, size, etc. You probably won't find your first choice in each category at your target price, but you will find acceptable combinations if your price target is realistic and if you're patient (it took me almost 2 months). Anticipate any additional costs (different length stem, different cogset, pedals, shoes, etc.) while shopping. Talk to the seller about fit. How tall, what inseam, sleeve length, etc. is he. This worked well for me.

Good luck...
Hey JohnSruggle
Jan 3, 2003 12:20 PM
I Have been riding a Trek 2200 for the past two seasons and really like it (7,000 miles on it). It was $1600 new. I would recomend looking for last years models at bike shops around you. I think that people are to fast to jump on the bandwagon and dump tons of money into expensive bikes that never get really used for anything other than look at how much money I can spend Fu Fu bikes. The expensive bikes are really nice but anything with 105 compents or better will serve just fine for most riders. Are you going to go with a double or triple chain ring set up? Something to consider for where you live and if you live in the snowy north now is a great time for great deals at the LBS as they want to sell last years models fast now. You can always upgrade componets later as you adjust to the bike. My suggestion is 105 or better componets!! All major companies build good frames in the price range you are talking. Used bikes might be a good idea as many people trade in as they upgrade to a new bike. I know my LBS will let people test ride bikes as well so you might try that. Clipless pedals are a must have for the road bike. Have fun and dig around

Struggle
re: OK, I know that I need some new roadie advicemaximum15
Jan 3, 2003 4:39 PM
If you want to keep the price down, Sruggle is on target. My wife got me into road bikes a few years ago. I was able to pick up her Trek 2300 for less than 1500 on closeout. Then I found one for me for 1100 -- awesome deal for a full ultegra equipped bike. Both of these bikes were last years models bought in Jan - Feb. Now that I have rode for a while, I realize the Trek is not the best everyday bike. I recently picked up a used steel Bianchi for a song that rides and fits me great. The funny thing is that I always thought the Trek fit great until I started trying to find a second bike. I rode a couple of bikes that really made me say to myself "wow, this bike is perfect". This wasn't something I could determine in a short ride, I needed a good 1/2 hour to hour on the bikes to come to that realization. If you aren't used to riding road bikes, I'm not sure that you have anything to go on other than fit guides. It does take some time to get used to the position on a road bike.
Tell me more53T
Jan 3, 2003 7:32 PM
I want to know more about this $2000 hybrid bike. I have not been able to find such a bike.

A good road bike (by the way, touring frames are road frames, there jusy not road racing frames) costs frameset+ $1000. Good framesets in Steel or Al start at $350 and go as high as the sky. Most excellent ones go for less than $1600, though.
Tell me moreNug
Jan 3, 2003 9:27 PM
I'm curious too- I can't imagine what you got for 2k in a hybrid. What the heck is it?
My stupid storyjwhite480
Jan 4, 2003 4:28 AM
It started out with my wife buying a Cannondale Silke 700 Adventure from a bike shop called Spokes in Arlington. They told her it was the best bike for me (I wasn't there) and said I needed different tires, rack, tools, pump, helmet, etc. Ran the initial bike up to around $1700. When I tried riding the bike on my first longer ride (20 miles), I hated it. Took it back to the shop. They changed the stem, handlebar and seat post (of course I paid for it), not much help. Did this 4 times before I learned that every trip to Spokes cost me over $100 and did not improve much. So I now have a tricked out hybrid that I hate. It would be good for commuting in a city, but I live so far out in the country in Ohio that they won't even deliver pizza......not the right bike for taking long runs on country back roads....know I should have learned quicker, but I never said I was the smartest bike buyer.
IS THIS THE INFAMOUS SPOKESWoof the dog
Jan 4, 2003 7:11 PM
is this the very unpopular bike shop that treats bikes and customers like crap, and is somewhere in Chicago area?

IF this is the shop, do some people a favor, blow the place up (just kidding).

Sincerely

Woof the dog.
IS THIS THE INFAMOUS SPOKESjwhite480
Jan 5, 2003 4:36 AM
There may be SPOKES, etc bike shops in Chicago, but this bikers version of Goodyear Tires is located in the Washington DC area. All you Arlington and Alexandria residents, beware. Spokes is there to take your money, not to promote biking or take care of customers.
This is not my experience with Spokes - they always havebill
Jan 6, 2003 8:31 AM
been pretty good about changing stuff out for no cost. I never have approached the shop cold and said, "Sell me a bike," so my experience may not be relevant, but this is the first time I've heard anyone complain about this sort of thing from Spokes. This happened at the Alexandria store? Who did you deal with there? I also can tell you that dealing with the owner, Jim Strang, who is a long-time roadie and bike devotee (he has a pretty extensive personal collection of cool bikes, including old track racers, etc.), is often a much better experience than working with some of the other folks there. I must say that I have run into do-nothing hammerheads at Spokes. When I've complained to Jim that I had trouble getting people to locate something or come up with a straight answer, he has apologized and said that he can't be everywhere at once and that, y'know, other than core people that you try to spread around (he has three shops) you go through labor at a bikeshop.
I also wonder why they tried so hard to sell you a hybrid. They have an excellent inventory of road bikes.