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Somewhat off topic - How has 9/11 changed you?(22 posts)

Somewhat off topic - How has 9/11 changed you?NewDayNewWay
Jan 2, 2003 5:48 PM
Yes, I ride my bike a lot more, but also...
* I don't worry nearly as much about my investments
* I read more, but I don't read books that tell you how to win friends and influence people, or books about figuring out how to mentally undo what happened to you as a child
* I've become much more acceptant of myself and others
* I've become much more spiritual and reflective
* I spend a lot more time with my family
* I look for ways to spend less time at work
* I spend more money on things that truly add value to my life, and less money on crap (corporate marketers can take a hike).

I am most fortunate. Thank you God.
Business is booming ...Humma Hah
Jan 2, 2003 6:09 PM
I rode 152 miles on 9/8/01. I found the ad for the job on 9/9. I turned in my resume on 9/10. 9/11 everyone was distracted. By the time I got an interview a couple of days later, the place was going nuts. The military had gotten $20 billion in walking around money and was eager to buy some neat toys the company was developing.

I have not had time for long rides since! But I commute to work on the bike most days, and there's a strong cycling heritage here at work (the company was founded by members of the the Dadelus 88 human-powered aircraft team).

I don't like to think that my good fortune is the result of such epic misfortune. But around here, we like to fantasize that the last video image from one of our little unmanned aircraft is the rapidly expanding face of one Osama bin Laden.
family....quadzilla1
Jan 2, 2003 7:30 PM
I too was changed...I lost a good friend

.value family SO much more & don't take them for granted I found that I spent a lot more time with them & actually listening to them (a 5 year old & two year old)

. we decided to have a third child..now due in August!

. I bought a boat last weekend so I can spent some quality time with the kids out on the water instead of just biking by myself all the time.

.like ndnw above, I found a way to spend less time at work & quit my second & third job.

. Don't much care about money anymore...as long as I have enough to make it to the next day! Never know when you might wake up dead. Yeah, I know it's bad for retirement, but hey that's about 32 years away...
Very little....bluebianchi
Jan 2, 2003 7:31 PM
except that I dislike our cowboy-in-chief even more than I did before 9/11. I guess I am more fearful- but not of terrorists, of Dubya.
What a partisan POV! (nm)Breakfast
Jan 2, 2003 9:34 PM
What a rational POV! (nm)Frith
Jan 3, 2003 6:48 AM
SomeThing More ScarierRoadrunner25
Jan 3, 2003 8:06 AM
Is Hillary Clinton in shorts.

What a pig.
Increased my (already huge) contempt for politiciansSilverback
Jan 3, 2003 8:32 AM
I'm with bluebianchi--I already thought Bush was a posturing moron, but watching his handlers use him to spin events to support their views since 9/11 has increased my scorn. This has nothing to do with patriotism--it's just disgust with one set of actions by one set of self-serving ideologues. And the Democrats are only about a half-step behind, limited only by their political cowardice.
As for the flag-waving and apple pie stuff, appreciating our way of life and cherishing my family--I already DID that, so no change for me.
Missed the whole point of the postAlpedhuez55
Jan 3, 2003 8:56 AM
The original post had nothing to do with politics. THe events of 9/11 touched everyone in all kinds of ways. If it only increased your hatred for a politician, party or ethnic group, I pity you. I could not imagine going through life with no soul and a heart filled with hate.

Mike Y.
"9/11 touched everyone"--Survey says: Simply not true.Silverback
Jan 3, 2003 3:29 PM
The original post asked how 9/11 had changed me, and I answered that question. If your appreciation of the country and your family was shallow before the attacks and it's deeper now, then I'm happy for you. Mine wasn't, and it's no different post-9/11.
As for the notion that the attacks changed us all, though, that's pretty much an East Coast belief. A number of surveys and studies (which I can't cite right now but will be able to after I get home) show that feelings dwindle fast as you move away from ground zero. I was in New York in October, and people are still deeply affected. But here in the West, where I live, a majority of people say it hasn't changed anything. They're angry or horrified or whatever, but they're not DIFFERENT.
"9/11 touched everyone"--Survey says: Simply not true.Alpedhuez55
Jan 3, 2003 5:13 PM
As I said in my last post, I pity you. 5000 innocent lives are taken and you only feel more contempt against a political party. I think that is a sad statement.

You think of the aftermath of 9/11 and all it does is make think of your wacky theory where Bush & Rumsfeld to steal from your mother's Social Security Check & Health Care Programs and give it to defense contractors and oil companies.

Silverback "Are we going to fight two wars at once? And who's to blame?" 12/29/02 10:42am

You do not need to post your surveys because they are not relevant. In your post it said "They're angry or horrified or whatever, but they're not DIFFERENT." If they are angy or horrified, they were touched by 9/11. Maybe their day to day life has not changed but they were effected. There is a spirit to the question that you did not understand.

Silverback, I feel sorry for you. You told us how the events changed you. It made you feel more hate to your government. If you said it did not change you I would have understood. You expressed your veiws and they are blinded by hate. I would hate to go through life like that.

Mike Y.
More interested in current events...biknben
Jan 3, 2003 4:22 AM
I listened to AM radio for six months after 9/11. I just wanted to hear everything right away. Now I find an increased intererest in national news broadcasts and have my home page set to CNN.
re:More involved in the peace movement.dzrider
Jan 3, 2003 5:15 AM
The threat posed by the global acceptance of violence has become more real to me. The notion that the USA is safe from the kinds of insanity that killed so many people in Nazi Germany or Cambodia or Rwanda or Bosnia is gone. I can only hope that inspections and elimination of weapons of mass destruction is so successful in Iraq that we do it in every nation on earth including our own.
re: Somewhat off topic - How has 9/11 changed you?Alpedhuez55
Jan 3, 2003 6:35 AM
The company I was working on had a meeting on 9/10/02 anouncing a restructure. On 9/11 I went in waiting to get laid off, but with the events that happenned, they sent us home early. When I went to work the next morning, I found out one of my coworker's husband was on the first plane to hit the WTC.

He was a good nice man. WHenever I got the chance to talk to him, we would talk about cycling. I still cringe when I see the video of the first plane. Later in the week, I foud out 2 former coworkers who had moved to NYC killed in the attacks as well.

We just told our empolyer to get things over with for us and not to drag the layoffs out. I guess the events of the previous day made realize the layoff was not the end of the world and that there are many things in my life I am lucky to have. I am able to appreciate that much more.

THey asked us to stay two weeks and let us take time off for interviews. I went on a couple of interviews and started my new job immediately.

As to how my life has change, I pay closer attention to the news, especially the world news. I give more money to charity. I look at the stress and problems in my life differently and realize that I am blessed with a great group family and friends.

Mike Y.
Lost my jobPicshooter
Jan 3, 2003 7:27 AM
Sept 11 "forced" me into a life and feelings echoing NewdayNewWay.My company decided that the economy was headed down so they restructered and sold the facility that I worked out of. They outsourced my tasks and gave me a fair severance package. I took 8 months and rode most everyday and would come home to do the things around the house that I never had the time to do ( including priceless family time) I have never been happier (with my life) But saddened by the tradgedy. I was flying around the NY skyline in a Helicopter just a few weeks before. What a beautiful City NY is from the air.
re: Somewhat off topic - How has 9/11 changed you?firstrax
Jan 3, 2003 7:38 AM
I have more patience at the airport. I have had 26 flights since and the security checks and delays dont bother me anymore.
haven't flown any planes since...mohair_chair
Jan 3, 2003 7:39 AM
I'm have no problem with flying, I just don't want to deal with all the extra hassles and indecencies that have been tacked on to air travel in the wake of 9/11. Thankfully I haven't had any reason to travel where I couldn't go by car. That has the added advantage of allowing me to bring my bike without breaking it apart, boxing it up, and paying an extra $150.

Otherwise, nothing that really matters has changed for me. One thing I do notice is that when watching movies or TV shows that are set in New York, I always look for the WTC on the skyline. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not.
SkylineFez
Jan 3, 2003 9:02 AM
Obviously, on post-9/11 shows and movies, WTC is not in the skyline.

But have they actually edited WTC out of the skyline on older shows, like old Friends reruns?
SkylineAlpedhuez55
Jan 3, 2003 9:43 AM
I have not seen the Simpsons where Homer's car is in a Denver Boot at the bottom of the Twin Towers since 9/11. That was actually supposed to be on reruns in Boston a couple of days after 9/11 but a different episode was run in it's place. I think I have seen shots of the towers in Friends Reruns though. I think they should leave it in the shows. THey were great buildings and should be remembered.

As for flying, it is not changed that much. You just need to be careful what you pack on you carry on. And allow a few extra minutes to get through the check point. I have made a few flights and have not had any problems.

Mike Y.
Skylinemohair_chair
Jan 3, 2003 9:51 AM
Just saw an old Friends episode the other day and the WTC was there.
There is a NON-CYCLING Discussion AreaRoadrunner25
Jan 3, 2003 8:05 AM
This would be more appropriate THERE.
re: Somewhat off topic - How has 9/11 changed you?Woof the dog
Jan 4, 2003 7:24 PM
You are welcome

Woof the god.