|Whats the best road bike for a 275 + lb. person||samcorrea|
Dec 29, 2002 1:38 PM
|I am interested in getting into the sport for around $1500. What is the best material for a frame for a very large man, also, what is the best wheelset for someone my size.
|re: Whats the best road bike for a 275 + lb. person||collinsc|
Dec 29, 2002 1:52 PM
|Well, the wheelset is pretty easy. Best thing youll be able to do there is mavic Open Pro rims to your choice of hubs in 36 hole 3 cross lacing, 14/15 double butted spokes built by someone who knows their stuff.
How large is large? are we talkin weight or height too? Opinions will vary here, but youll soon hear a lot of them on this board. Steel is probably the best choice, though Aluminum in this price bracket can be plenty robust, and youre going to need plenty of robustness.
|re: Whats the best road bike for a 275 + lb. person||samcorrea|
Dec 29, 2002 2:02 PM
|In order to clarify what I was looking for, I am 6' 2" and 20 years old. I have been an avid mtb rider for a year or so but I want to start climbing and riding longer distances. I need a bike that will work well for a 275 + lb. man and will also be a good bike later on when i begin loosing weight.|
|re: And I thought I was big...||crosscut|
Dec 29, 2002 8:48 PM
|I thought I was big until I read Sam and Mike's posts. I'm 6'-1" and 225. I'm a clydesdale compared with the others I ride with. Having said that, it's time for a reality check for us big fellows. Sam mentioned he wanted to work on climbing. The reality is: WE WILL NEVER BE GREAT CLIMBERS. Never, ever. We can get good at it for our size, but we will never be able to scale steep hills with any speed. I can ride hills along side the flyweights, but when the grade goes into the double digits, I'm like toilet paper dragging at the rear. My point? A real light weight alum bike won't serve much of a purpose, as well as a light wheelset. Get a nice steel bike, like the Zurich someone else suggested, and get a substantial wheel. I would get a little deeper rim than an Open Pro, like a CXP33, but I'm not sure you can find it in a 36 hole pattern. The problem is finding hubs and rims these days that use the 36. Your LBS should be able to help you with this. I have one set of 36 hole rims for my Crossbike made by Ambrosia (Italy) that is the most reliable and sturdy rims I've ever used, without being ridicously heavy. Definitely get some sort of 36 hole rim and run 14/15 spokes. Climbing at our weight? Don't use anything less that a 27 cog on your rear cassette. In fact, it might be a good idea to run a mountain rear derailleur and use a 30 tooth cog. I'm probably sounding like an alarmist, but Sam mentioned climbing and he also mentioned he did mountain biking. Road riding will be different, but he might as well take advantage of MTB gearing to climb steep grades. Otherwise it can be discouraging. If the grades aren't that steep, ignore everything I've just said about MTB cassettes.|
|sorry i cant be more helpful||collinsc|
Dec 29, 2002 9:26 PM
|but im a 5' 10" 145lb 20 year old. but crosscut's post below is pretty right on from what ive heard. hes right on the CXP 33 rims, deeper section will make them stiffer and sturdier. The Lemond Zurich is actually a great idea for your price range. You may want to consider a triple depending on how strong you think you are.|
|Take a look at a Corima....||Lone Gunman|
Dec 30, 2002 5:29 PM
|They have a website, do a search, they look like cruiser frames, the top tube is arched, supposed to be for heavy riders, saw one up close a few years back and the guy riding it was a heavyweight. But they don't weigh any more than your average bike frame, no extra parts tubes added.|
|re: Whats the best road bike for a 275 + lb. person||Alpedhuez55|
Dec 29, 2002 5:46 PM
|I would consider the Lemond Zurich if the geometry works for you. I am a 300 ponder myself and it works well for me. It is plenty stiff in the right places and has a very nice ride, especially if you are using it to try to increase you mileage on a bike. I am sure there are other simular steel bikes out there as well.
|I, uh, used to weigh that myself...||retro|
Dec 29, 2002 9:34 PM
|Actually I topped out at 267. Then a couple of years ago I got serious about riding again, and I've been down to 217 and back up to about 225 now. Trying to hold on through the holidays, then I'm heading for 200 or so...
Even at my top weight, I had no frame problems and only an occasional broken spoke with a couple of bikes I bought used for less than $300 apiece. One was a Trek tourer, Reynolds 531 tubing with generic 36-spoke wheels, and the other was a steel, lugged frame Specialized Allez with 32 Wheelsmith spokes laced to Mavic MA-40 rims. I rode the crap out of both of them for two or three years, and I think I broke two spokes on the Allez. I had ridden a pre-suspension mountain bike for several years before that, and some of those skills, floating over bumps and whatnot, helped keep the roadies alive. But based on my experience, any decent, non-stupid-light road frame should work. If you need to, you can buy a cheap set of heavy duty touring wheels from someplace like Nashbar. They often have built wheels for $150-$200 a set. You wouldn't want to race on them, but they're fine for training.
|Retro said the magic word||crosscut|
Dec 29, 2002 11:20 PM
|..."You wouldn't want to race on them, but they're fine for training." RACE is the key word here. I never see anyone weighing more than 180-190 racing anywhere, and I'm a fan of the local racing scene. You won't see a light-weight 200 lb guy playing guard in the NFL, and you won't see the same guy in the Tour de France. (Makes me wonder what 200 lb guys are good for.) It's all relative, and competive biking just doesn't lend itself to heavy folks. So, we ride because it's fun as hell, it's a way to keep in shape and hopefully lose weight, and we "compete" against our friends and fellow club members. Retro is exactly right in his analysis. Just get a good sturdy bike. Then shut up and ride.|
|ahh, come to the track my friend||yeah right|
Dec 30, 2002 8:56 AM
|you'll find plenty of us 200lbs'ers. we can't climb, but we sure can roll, so when you take away the hills watch out.|
|ahh, come to the track my friend, yeah right||crosscut|
Dec 30, 2002 10:45 AM
|Excellent point. The track is where you find larger men and women competing on bikes. However, most don't have access to a track (velodrome, isn't it?). Relatively few metro areas have one, but it's great for those that do.|
|Your Way Off Base!||BigLeadOutGuy|
Dec 31, 2002 6:52 AM
|If you think big guys cant race you are out of your mind. weather it be at the tour de france,nationl or regional event. At any of the tours If you look at the mountain stages by the end of the climb there are only around 5 men that finish within 5 minutes of each other. according to your statement then there are only a handful of "racers" out there in the world. There are plenty of little guys that cant climb as well. I am constantly beating the typical cyclist up hills on the flats and especially in the sprint...and I do so at 6`4`` 245 pounds. So whoever thinks big guys cant race they are just flat out wrong.|
|re: Whats the best road bike for a 275 + lb. person||bigcat|
Dec 31, 2002 6:17 AM
I understand your problem. I am a huge rider myself (road and mountain)(6'3" 350lbs). Any well made medium weight frame will hold up for you, the things you will have to worry about the most are compenets and wheels. Always go with a deep areo profile rim and 32 or 36 spokes. The deep profile rims are much strong then the semi areo rims (Open Pros, Ambrosio Excellence and others). For components look at strong bars, stem, seatpost and such. The problem you will find with the lighter stuff (not race light but safe light) is that they will be to flexy for you. What every bike you buy try to get a good carbon fork (I ride a Reynolds Ozuo Comp 2002). Again the thing you will find with the lighter forks (safe light) is that they will be to flexy for your size.
I currently ride a custom steel road frame and my bike comes in at 25lbs with cages, and seat bag. I could lighten up my bike quite a bite if i changed the group I have on it but for right now it is fine for me. Just make sure you have a good frame and strong strudy parts and as you get lighter then start making the changes.