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Additional help on bike purchase....(14 posts)

Additional help on bike purchase....peterjh9
Dec 27, 2002 10:42 AM
OK, so after much searching, the three bikes I have found that are the cheapest are the Trek 1000 for $679, the Giant OCR3 at $599, and the Fuji Ace at $499.

All are still above what I wanted to spend, but I guess there is no going lower. I like the Trek the most, but thats about $300 more than I wanted to spend.

Of these, is the Fuji that much worse than the others? I ask, cause I think I can get a further discount due to being a repeat customer, and friends with a guy who worked there for 10 years. Maybe $425 or so, which is within my budget. Its a 2002 Ace.

Again, I don't race, and will never race. Just for excercise and to keep in shape for MB'ing.

I realize this is super taboo (at least in the MB world), but would buying a $100 cheapo road bike at like Wal-mart be a bad idea?? I mean, a MB absorbs so many forces, that a cheaply made bike is dangerous. But a road bike seems much less at risk. If this is a bad idea (posh factor aside, as that means nothing to me), please tell me why.

Thank you so much for all your help.
re: Additional help on bike purchase....Andy M-S
Dec 27, 2002 12:12 PM
First off, you can't get a cheapo road bike at X-mart. They don't exist. Try to describe one to a X-mart employee, and you'll hear "Huh?".

Second off, though, IIRC Fuji makes a bike with DT shifters. That might be the ACE or it might be another bike...if you go that way, you'll save some good money right there, since STI is an expensive add-on that (perhaps unfortunately) most bikes have, and that adds $100 or so to the pricetag.

Third off, have you considered the advantages of a good used road bike? I picked up a Bridgestone RB2--an excellent bike with DT shifters, hardly used, in my size--for $150 last fall. Come to think of it, that's how I got my Bianchi CdI a couple of years ago--for $100. Bike shops won't usually show you their used stuff unless you ask. If you do, for the price of rubber and few cables, you may swing yourself a bargain.

Good luck!
I have looked at used bikes...peterjh9
Dec 27, 2002 12:47 PM
But only on this website. I did not even think about shops selling used bikes. I honestly don't think they do, but I shall ask.

I know what an STI shifter is, but whats a DT shifter???
DT = "Down Tube" shifter. Older style. (nm)Sintesi
Dec 27, 2002 12:49 PM
Yeahpeterjh9
Dec 27, 2002 1:00 PM
Took a second, but I realized it. Your beat me to it.

Spoke to one shop, nothing.
Spoke to another, and they have a used C-dale from the early 90s. $250 or so. Will go take a look next week.

Thank-you so much for the idea.
Buddy, new bike? Are you crazy?Sintesi
Dec 27, 2002 12:47 PM
At the purely recreational level you intend to ride on the road you don't need a new bike. Just get some slick road tires and put them on your mountainbike. If you don't want to mess with tire changes then get some cheap wheels (probably spend $150 for two decent wheels, say LX hubs) made up with slicks and slap them on your bike in two minutes whenever you feel the need to ride the road.

Don't waste your time on cheap "roadbikes" they ain't worth it and you won't go any faster than you would on your mountainbike.
Well...peterjh9
Dec 27, 2002 1:15 PM
I was doing this all last summer. I actually started to road ride it quite a bit. After the summer, I found that the large chainring, chain, a few rear cogs, and disk brake pads all were worn out, and needed replacement. At the cost of replacements, I would of course like to avoid this practice. In the long run, a few hundred spent on a road bike could help prolong the life of my more expensive MB components. Plus, time saved swapping tires which I also did.

I am not quite recreational, but not anything impressive. I was doing 18 mile road rides about 4 times a week. Looks very umimpressive to you all I am sure, but for me, it was nice.

Plus, I really want a road bike dangnabbit!!! LOL :-)
Buddy, new bike? Are you crazy?motta
Dec 27, 2002 1:17 PM
He has a really good point. All bikes seem to have a singular focus now-a-days. Downhill, mountian, cyclo-cross,road, touring, crit, freeride(what ever the hell that is), you "need" a bike for each type of riding. I can remember riding trails and jumping some hellacious ramps with my old Schwinn Varsity, the greatest all purpose bike ever made.
Varsity...Andy M-S
Dec 27, 2002 1:39 PM
"...my old Schwinn Varsity, the greatest all purpose bike ever made"

Not to mention the heaviest... :-)
used CX bike?weiwentg
Dec 27, 2002 5:59 PM
one of the other posters mentioned cyclocross. if you look on ebay, you may be able to find a cheap used cross bike. some CX courses can be pretty similar to XC courses. put slicks and you can ride on the road (and keep up with most roadies). put cross tires and you can ride the fire roads. just a thought; most new CX bikes are around $1k. still, you might be able to find a used one.
eg, Jamis Nova for $499 at Performanceweiwentg
Dec 27, 2002 6:01 PM
this is in store only, reported by one CXer on the cyclocross forum (in San Diego). or perhaps you have a friend in San Diego. the Nova has a pretty good spec.
Ok, new ideapeterjh9
Dec 27, 2002 6:22 PM
I spend like $700, and get an 03 Bianchi Brava.

Steel frame and fork. Servicable components.

Spend a little more now, to save a little more later.

Good idea??
re: Additional help on bike purchase....Barton
Dec 28, 2002 8:00 AM
This is why there is an e-bay.

Lots of good used bikes. Just be patient, and you will find what you are looking for.
Not surepeterjh9
Dec 28, 2002 9:31 AM
While used bikes are fine, there is something about having a new bike all to yourself. Something tht was only your's from day one. I have thought about it a lot over the past few weeks, and decided that a new bike is something that can and will happen.
I will go up to about $700 or so, which is the lowest pricepoint for a functional bike. At this point, I have found the Bianchi Brava and Trek 1000. These are the two I am mulling over now.

I like the steel Bianchi, but what the heck is that suspension seat thing? I have a suspension post on my HT MB, and I sure don't want one on a road bike. Also, orange?? Color, while not the end all, is still a factor.

I like the Trek, but its all aluminum, which I have been told to stay away from. Still, I think its my favorite of the two.

Any other suggestions for a bike at this range??