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4bykn, PaulCL, Spoke Wrench, Illinois-proximity posters...(15 posts)

4bykn, PaulCL, Spoke Wrench, Illinois-proximity posters...JS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 6:10 AM
how about a ride on 3/1 or 3/15, weather allowing?

st. louis-area 200k (~125 mi) brevet starts near Edwardsville, IL on 3/1 (and 3/15, and 3/29). i hope to ride the 200/300/400/600k series at this location, march through may/june. Edwardsville is ~25 miles NE of St. Louis.

the brevet is a self-supported ride with a time limit and a route card that requires timestamps at checkpoints along the route (convenience stores, etc.). i think the route is not marked, and riders follow a map/cue instead. cost is $4, or $7 if you'd like a "brevet medal". rides start 6:30 AM and have a 13hr 30 min total time limit.

i'll be driving in and staying overnight in Edwardsville the night before. it's something like 320 miles from home.

here are the related sites and info:

I appreciate the offerPaulCL
Dec 27, 2002 6:34 AM
But my physical condition as of March 1st probably wouldn't allow me to ride a 200k ride. Don't get me wrong, I would love to do it. If the weather isn't all that bad in Jan/Feb and I can ride, then maybe. The usual weather around my area allows me 6-10 days, at most, on the bike between now and March 1st. To get ready for a 200k ride, I've got to ride at least a 100 miles per week over that time period. Even a 100 miles/week probably wouldn't be enough.

Thanks. Paul
i'll keep my fingers crossed nmJS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 7:28 AM
Thank you for thinking...Spoke Wrench
Dec 27, 2002 6:35 AM
that I might be able to ride that far without rupturing my spleen.

If you are comfortable with the idea of saving a little money, email me and you'd be welcome to stay with my wife and me at our condo in St. Charles. It's an easy trip to Edwardsville.
thanks...!!!JS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 7:32 AM
will e-mail you either way as the ride gets closer. thanks again!...i can just hear it now: "honey, is it ok if a guy i met on the internet stays over friday night? no, i've never met him, but he does have unruly facial hair."



Not to worrySpoke Wrench
Dec 27, 2002 10:01 AM
I'm involved in AA too. If we tell her that you're a drunk insted of a bicyclist she won't think so badly of you and it'll be OK.
LOLJS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 10:12 AM
LOL. btw, i did go down the NA road once. but, now it's all n/a (not applicable!).

I used to work for Arthur Andersen (as a techno-diety, not as a pencil-neck geek--no offense to any pencil-neck geeks reading this). not that either association deserves a stigma, but both seem to have one. come to think of it, i'd rather tell people that i shave my legs and wear lycra than that i worked at AA. though none of them is something deserving shame, all of them are likely to get a strange look.

Wrong time of year for me!4bykn
Dec 27, 2002 7:26 AM
March is about the start of my riding season here in central IL(Normal). While it sounds like fun, I doubt I'd be able to post my longest ride of my cycling career in the first weeks after being off the bike for 4 months. I'll echo the other posters in thanking you for the offer, I must pass this time. Have a good time, and good luck on the ride. Are you using this ride as a qualifier for a longer ride? I seem to remember that this is a qualifier for some other brevet.

i Ride in Peace.....Mike
yupJS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 7:44 AM
200k then 300k then 400k then 600k. 1k = .62 mi.

this will be my first experience with this type of riding, though i've done long rides before, some self-supported. completing the whole series seems a fair introduction to randonneuring, and is actually a qualification for boston-montreal-boston or paris-brest-paris. however, i have no plans of riding either BMB or PBP within the next 2 years.

series completion also earns the rider "super randonneur" status with the record keeping and officiating organization in france. in reality though, i'm just trying to be more "inter-continental" and stuff, being from elvisville and all.

sounds like fun!rollo tommassi
Dec 27, 2002 8:03 AM
Doubtful that I'll get back to Belgium for the tourist version of the Ronde van Vlaanderen....but this could be just as much a challenge!!

March, though....March......
hey guys, the ride may be doable even in marginal shapePaulCL
Dec 27, 2002 8:08 AM
After some quick-fingered calculating.....125 miles in 13 1/2 hours is averaging 9.26 MPH. That's doable with only a few miles in the saddle.

Can you paceline??
How about a small engine near the bottom bracket??
A tow rope from a lead car??

Seriously, when's the cutoff to enter?? My wife would kill me for even asking, but hell, I'm addicted to a challenge. Afterall, its not a race but just a ride. If I can do two centuries in one weekend with only 350 miles under my belt (May of last year), maybe I can do this.

a note: as you can see, with only 350 miles in by early May last year, my riding in Jan/Feb/Mar is very iffy at best.

time limit etc.JS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 8:35 AM
9.25 mph with no stops.

of course, i have no idea how the checkpoints are spaced, but i'm guessing every 25 to 30 miles, perhaps even more distant.

assuming four stops of 10 minutes each (since each "stopee" has to have their card punched), that brings your time down to 12.84 hours. this means you have to average 9.73 mph for time on the bike. that's a HUGE speed jump from 9.25. :)

i'm hoping to average 15-16 mph for 200k with only required stops--not unreasonable, and not leg-breaking. the terrain is purported to be mostly flat with good roads.

the spirit of each brevet seems to be preparation for the next, and i have it on pretty good authority that the time you have in such excess on the "shorter" rides is your enemy on "longer" rides, where exhaustion, mechanicals, stops, eating, and sleep may be involved in eating up your schedule.

re: getting pre-registered, i don't think there is a cutoff. in other words, i think you can simply show up with $4 and ride, though i'm sure an e-mail or call a week or more in advance would be appreciated by the organizer (this would also protect the rider in the event that the ride was canceled or date changed).

re: pacelining...i'm not sure if working together is prohibited, but again, in the spirit of the ride, preparation for the next in the series seems the goal. this also jives with the folks i've had the pleasure of riding longer distances with in 2002, where they prefered to ride side-by-side or without the benefit of draft for the better part of the journey. it's a self-supported/self-reliant thing, so far as i can understand. this does not mean that good company is not appreciated--most certainly on the contrary!

Dang, JS. How'd you do that?Mike P
Dec 27, 2002 9:45 AM
I was just brainlessly reading through the posts and you had to get my brain gears turning! There are brevets near hear too. I do not want to ride that far. . . why'd I read the post? The ones in Georgia look to have a good deal of climbing involved which could make those long miles much more fun. GRRRR! Sick! If I start riding these things. . . 8^)

re: GA brevetsJS Haiku Shop
Dec 27, 2002 10:14 AM
looks like the GA brevets cover many of the roads involved in the 6-gap, as well as the ones we rode in november. yikes!!!
re: 4bykn, PaulCL, Spoke Wrench, Illinois-proximity posters...Juanmoretime
Dec 27, 2002 1:46 PM
JS, I'm not real far, Urbana, Illinois, and might just be up to it. I back off in the winter but still maintain a relatively good level of fitness. Keep in touch.