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Training tubulars(8 posts)

Training tubularsColorado Ron
Dec 24, 2002 8:49 AM
I used to race and train on Tubular tires. For training I used a Wolber Invulnerable. That's been 15 years ago, but I never remember having a flat on the invulnerable tire. I believe they were lined with a stainless mesh.
Anyone know if these are still made? What's the best training/general purpose tubular available these days as far as puncture resistance goes?
re: Training tubularsmotta
Dec 24, 2002 9:06 AM
Not sure what the "best" would be, but I can tell you what to stay away from. The tires marketed as training tires are not worth the glue needed to attach it to a rim. These would be the Rally's, Giros, S33, etc. Steer clear of anything costing less than $20, it is false economy.
You could try...biknben
Dec 24, 2002 9:19 AM
Vittoria makes a tubular called Special Pave or something similar. It is intended for rougher roads or bad weather. It is far from flat-proof. It just has a thicker tread. I don't know of any tubular tires that have special kevlar layers. Most just add a layer to the carcass and claim flat protection.

Another option is Tufo Tire Sealant. It's similar to Slime but works with presta valves. Many tubular tire users recommend it.

http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/accessories.html
Not the same!!Alexx
Dec 25, 2002 7:25 AM
Tufo sealant is absolutely NOTHING like Slime. Tufo sealant actually works for high-pressure tires. Slime just makes a big green mess. Then it seals at about 40 psig. Big help!
Don't even think of using slime.
re: Training tubularsMR_GRUMPY
Dec 24, 2002 10:03 AM
They haven't been sold in quite a while. Don't waste your money on cheap sew ups. If all your wheels are tubular, just use Conti Sprinters. I gave up training on tubulars a long time ago. Save them for racing, or hard race-pace group rides.
re: Training tubularsJimP
Dec 24, 2002 12:06 PM
I prefer the Sprinters too. LaBicicletta - http://www.labicicletta.com/wheels.html - sells them for $33 each.
Great link!desmo
Dec 24, 2002 2:46 PM
I'm pissed I just order two pairs of Sprinters from the UK for almost twice that amount, but great to know for the future.

For what it's worth. I train on clinchers, use Conti Sprinters for fast group rides and racing. And on my 70's classic.
S.O.L. on the Wobblers, but...Alexx
Dec 24, 2002 12:22 PM
If you want a good training tubular for around $25, I'd try the Tufo S22. Lots of tread rubber, they fit tight, ride well, are good on wet conditions, and they are round, too!
As far as Vittorias go, well, anything cheaper than the Corsa is just plain cr@p, not worth bothering with. Same goes for Conti Giros, Hutchison Tempos, D'Allesandros, etc., etc.
Conti Sprinters are good, but a bit too soft and quick-wearing to be a "training" tubular.
A friend of mine has had good luck with Michelin Libertys, though. Buys them by the box, and gets them for about $12 each. He says they are round, ride and grip well, but don't stand up well to punctures. Still, for $12/tire, he can afford to throw a new one on, then wiat for winter to patch them.
FWIW, www.worldclasscycles.com has the best selection of tubulars.