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OUCH! Back of knee pain....help!(8 posts)

OUCH! Back of knee pain....help!mtnbaker
Dec 23, 2002 7:59 AM
I started out on a ride on Saturday and within just a few miles the back of my left knee/top of my left calf started hurting. I stopped 4 different times to adjust my cleat placement, but nothing seemed to help. I recently started using Look pedals and Pearl Izumi road shoes, but I've been using clipless on my mountain bikes since 1996, and used ATB pedals with my mountain shoes on my road bike since I bought it about a year ago and never had this pain before. I also recently went to a compact frame design - don't know if that had anything to do with this either. Is this pain caused by the saddle position, cleat position or likely both? Anyone else out there experience this kind of back-of-the-knee pain? Any suggestions? I'm considering getting professionally fit on my road bike (I did it on my mountain bike back when I used to race), but I'm not sure I want to drop $100 for a fit since I only road bike once a week or so. Suggestions?
Seat too far forward or too high. (nm)Quack
Dec 23, 2002 8:16 AM
Seat too far forward or too high. (nm)noveread
Dec 23, 2002 1:33 PM
Don't you mean too far back or too high? I thought having one's saddle too far back increased the effective distance from saddle to pedal? And I know you mentioned it, but be sure your cleat is in the right place on your shoe.

Noveread
I've had numerous knee problemsishmael
Dec 23, 2002 8:53 AM
For starters make sure your seat is the right height. that done, equipment could be an issue but it wasnt in my case. I got speedplay, but I don't think that's what saved me, although they are nice. STREACH after every ride, and a bit before. thats what does it for me. If I let even one or two rides go without streaching, especially the leg spread toe touch, I'll get tight and it'll be sore. But I think I have tendonitis and yours is probably a different case. cant hurt though. dont bother with the 100 fitting, do it yourself. but dont make too drastic a change over too short a period. adjust slowly.
re: OUCH! Back of knee pain....help!CHRoadie
Dec 23, 2002 9:29 AM
I've got the same pain right now, although I'm almost over it. Pain in that area is usually caused by an irritation where the hamstring connects behind the knee. Ice it right after a ride and use an anti-inflamatory (like advil). Also try lowering your seat a bit. Personally, I would never ride a bike for more than 10 minutes that I hadn't been fitted on, so go get your fitting! Especially on a road bike where form is so important, both for good riding and for your health (knees, back, neck, etc.).
re: OUCH! Back of knee pain....help!bsdc
Dec 23, 2002 11:15 AM
Lower the saddle a little and maybe forward. Strongly consider getting your bike fit. If money is an issue, read up on it and get a buddy to help you.
re: sore hamstringsFredrico
Dec 23, 2002 11:34 AM
I sit here with the same pain, but in my case, it was from doing a difficult climb after two weeks of rest, simply putting too much stress pulling back and up on the crank.

You just changed pedals or shoes or both, right? You also got the pain within a couple of miles of your ride, in other words, right away. That indicates a positioning problem for sure, probably caused by either skinner soled shoes, flatter cleats, or thinner pedal cages, which effectively increased reach, inducing the hamstring pain.

As the other posters say, lower the saddle 2-5 cm. Don't worry, the hamstrings will heal.
It may be that you saddle is high or...hayaku
Dec 24, 2002 12:10 AM
it may be still the cleat possition. I had pain in the back of my knee after longer rides for a long time, moving my saddle to a lower possition did nothing but give me pain on top of my knee. Eventually I shifted my cleats back about 5mm and my problem was gone.

I'm a little sceptical about the saddle being too high with you however, as Looks pedals aren't know as having the lowest stack height around. It is more likely that your shoe/pedal combination has reduced the effective seat height.

Keep trying, good luck.
M.