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bike priorities?(38 posts)

bike priorities?DougSloan
Dec 18, 2002 11:19 AM
Rank, in order of priority for you for your primary bike and components, the following (1 being highest priority):

cost
comfort/fit
durability
function
aero
weight
appearance
exclusiveness

How and why have your priorities changed over the years?

For me, right now:

1 comfort/fit
2 function
3 appearance
4 durability
5 weight
6 cost
7 aero
8 exclusiveness

This is for my "new" main bike, a 1998 steel Bianchi Alloro, celeste, all Record, Nucleon wheels -- 18.2 pounds complete.

I've done the weight weenie, desireability, and aero thing, too. I can change on a whim, and tomorrow it could change again.

Doug
re: bike priorities?Len J
Dec 18, 2002 11:26 AM
1 Comfort/fit
2 function
3 durability
4 appearance
5 weight
6 cost
7 aero
8 exclusiveness

This is how I chose my Legend. As you say, talk to me next month & I may have a different oponion.

Len
Interesting...PdxMark
Dec 18, 2002 11:33 AM
Our relative rankings of cost essentially explain why I got a Tuscany rather than a Legend...
Interesting...Len J
Dec 18, 2002 11:50 AM
The reason Cost is down the list yet I spent a fortune on the Legend is that I am replacing a bike wrecked in an accident. The settlement is paying for my "Dream bike". If not for the Ins settlement It would be harder to justify.

Len
re: bike priorities?PdxMark
Dec 18, 2002 11:32 AM
1 comfort/fit
2 function
3 cost
4 durability
5 weight
6 appearance
7 aero
8 exclusiveness

For me, this has translated into a Litespeed Tuscany. It's not the fanciest bike out there, but it meets my needs very well and has thouroughly soothed my bike collecting mood for a couple years now. Well, except maybe a Landshark as a secondary bike, but not as an "upgrade."
re: bike priorities?abelson
Dec 18, 2002 11:39 AM
1 comfort/fit
2 cost
3 function
4 durability
5 weight
6 appearance
7 exclusiveness
8 aero
re: bike priorities?HAL9010
Dec 18, 2002 11:37 AM
Doug,

I thought you were taking a break from all things bike, distracting you from your growing family. You have not been "gone" long enough. Not that you are not missed. But you said in effect "we" were to tell you to get off the board and tend to you and yours.

That monkey on the back is a tenacious bugger isn't he?
64.65.241.94eyebob
Dec 18, 2002 11:43 AM
Okay.
Ignore my post above.eyebob
Dec 18, 2002 11:46 AM
Weight matters less to me because I'm light to start with.

comfort/fit
cost
durability
function
aero
appearance
weight
exclusiveness

BT
re: bike priorities?OldEdScott
Dec 18, 2002 11:48 AM
Comfort, function, durability and cost (paying a reasonable price for the first three) are the only considerations I have from your list, and I weight them all fairly equally.

Appearance, aero, weight and exclusiveness are non-considerations.

I would add 'timelessness,' in that I think a bike should be a long-term rather than disposable purchase, and should not be trendy. Maybe that's under durability though.
re: bike priorities?No_sprint
Dec 18, 2002 12:15 PM
1 comfort/fit
2 function
3 weight
4 appearance
5 exclusiveness
6 cost
7 durability
8 aero
re: bike prioritiesdzrider
Dec 18, 2002 12:16 PM
Comfort/fit
Cost
Function
Weight
Durability
Exclusiveness
Appearance
Aero
re: bike priorities?PEDDLEFOOT
Dec 18, 2002 12:18 PM
1. Function
2. Durability
3. Cost
4. Comfort/Fit
5. Appearance
6. Weight
7. Aero
8. Exclusiveness
Great Question! Recent debate with myselfMorgan
Dec 18, 2002 12:22 PM
I just encountered this buying a Merlin XL Compact Frame last month. I had never considered this bike till I rode someone elses. There have been so many bikes that I had lusted over in the past two years and this was not one of them. That is until I rode it. See over the past two years my lust was based on looks alone. When I rode the Merlin it felt right, comfortable, not buzzy like the aluminum, I was not getting out of the saddle as much when peddling up steep hills. BUT, I will say that in the month I have had the Merlin, I am still adjusting to the look of the compact frame. The most recent addition has been Dura Ace Pedals (the 03 models). Easy entry, easy exit, COMFORTABLE), BUT, there is more float than I like and they make noise when I am cranking up a hill or sprinting. So I guess my final answer is as I mature I am willing to pay for comfort first, then weight followed by looks. Bike is right at 17 pounds with full DA group.

Morgan
For me, I think it would be ...Humma Hah
Dec 18, 2002 12:52 PM
comfort/fit
durability
exclusiveness
durability
appearance
cost
weight
aero

The exclusiveness ranks fairly high for me because, while you can't swing a dead cat at the start of a century without hitting 8-10 fine bicycles, the only ones that catch my interest are distinctive, usually because they're fine OLD mounts, or they have spectacular retro features like maybe gold-plated lugwork.

That ranks behind durability because if I find such a bike, I wanna keep it FOREVER.

Which I won't do unless it feels good to ride and has a purpose.

Once these features are present, all else is a quibble, at least for me.
Er, typo ...Humma Hah
Dec 18, 2002 12:58 PM
I'm all for durability, but not twice, at the expense of function!

comfort/fit
function
durability
exclusiveness
appearance
cost
weight
aero
just one commentDougSloan
Dec 18, 2002 3:06 PM
HH is probably more aero than it is light, don't you think? :-)

Doug
It has aero forks ...Humma Hah
Dec 18, 2002 4:02 PM
... that are as slippery as anything in the forum, and it can coast a little faster than any roadbike I've ever tested it against if I get into a good tuck.

But in my normal seating position, and with the fenders on it, um ... there's room for improvement.

But, like the weight and the fat tires, aero drag is just more exercise, and I need that.
i would seperate comfort and fit...Frith
Dec 18, 2002 1:12 PM
I understand that you can't be comfortable on a bike that doesn't fit. But ride comfort can be an entirely different beast from fit comfort, Where the latter is based geometry and the former is based on build materials and build techniques.
That said i rank fit comfort and ride comfort about the same.
MineScot_Gore
Dec 18, 2002 1:13 PM
1) Comfort/Fit
2) Function
3) Cost
4) Durability
5) Appearance
6) Weight
7) Exclusiveness
8) Aero
re: bike priorities?Leroy
Dec 18, 2002 1:30 PM
comfort/fit
cost
function
durability
appearance
weight
exclusivity
aero

steel gios chorus/racing t; cannondale caad5 centaur.

Next bike in 2003 is a steel, chrome lugged, chrome fork compact pro or super corsa w/ chorus.
re: bike priorities?Juanmoretime
Dec 18, 2002 1:45 PM
1. comfort/fit
2. function
3. durability
4. appearance
5. cost
6. weight
7. aero
8. exclusiveness

I love my Vortex but I consider them expensive but not exclusive. It is very light at 15lbs but my main concerns are fit, comfort and function. A bike must feel like an extension of you body.
re: bike priorities?gtx
Dec 18, 2002 2:20 PM
They are all factors, except aero. By cost, do you mean initial cost or cost per mile? Durability and cost go hand in hand as far as I'm concerned. I like small California steel builders, but the fact that those bikes end up being fairly exclsive isn't a huge selling point for me. But obviously it's first about comfort/fit and then function/durability/cost. In terms of appearance, I think bikes are the best example out there of form following function--and I like to keep things simple. In terms of priorities changing, I figured out what worked for me for road bikes about 15 years ago, and have been basically riding the same stuff even since. The newer bikes are lighter, but it's not really a big deal for me. I am interested in some of the newer mtb FS designs, but that's another topic...
Durability is #1.MB1
Dec 18, 2002 3:03 PM
What suprised?

#1 Durability. We ride a bit.
#2A Cost. Can't have everything.
#2B Comfort/Fit. Might be 2A.
#2C Function.
#3 Compatable and interchangable with the other stuff we run on all our bikes.
#99 Weight, Aero, exclusiveness and appearance are barely on the radar screen.

Miss M has slowly come around to my way of thinking. Our favorite rides are steel frames and forks. My Bianchi 'Crosser and Gunnar Street Dog, her Rivendell and Fuji Track.
But waitaminnit ...Humma Hah
Dec 18, 2002 4:07 PM
... I guess you have this on your mind after retiring that beloved but cracked frame.

But you have a lot of bikes, and I seem to recall you tend not to hang onto them all that long, so each bike really does not get a chance to work up really epic mileage. I like bikes that are just getting broken in at 25,000 miles, but even with your mileage, do you keep them much longer than that? 6000 a year per bike for 4 years?

Cost ... yeah, with your fleet size, its important.

Function ... you've got one for every function, don't you? So any particular bike was selected very much for its function, I'd think.
Now that I am no longer in the bike businessMB1
Dec 19, 2002 6:23 AM
I have no intention of getting a new bike every year. Therefore durability and interchangability of the parts is now a prime requirement. This is what I own now.

Zaskar LE-currently set up as a snow bike with studded tires. Built up in 1993 with 8spd XT. est. 50,000 miles. I'll never sell this one. Current cost per mile-less than $0.05. (Cost per mile includes a rough estimate of all parts replaced or worn out).

Santana Team TI. Purchased 1999. 20,000 miles. Current cost per mile-around $0.50. It is top of the line so why would we ever replace it? If needed I'll just upgrade the parts as required.

Bianchi Reparto Corsa 'Crosser. Purchased 2000. 20,000+ miles. This is my main ride and most likely to be replaced if only because I ride it so much. Current cost per mile-app $0.15

Gunnar Street Dog. Purchased 2001. 6,000 miles. Another keeper although I may have it repainted sometime. Current cost per mile $0.34.

Miss M has 4 bikes and no desire for a change.
re: bike priorities?DaveG
Dec 18, 2002 3:18 PM
1. comfort/fit
2. durability
3. cost (as in low cost)
4. function
5. appearance
6. exclusiveness (uniqueness would be more appropriate for me)
7 weight
8. aero
Current "main" bike is a Torelli Brianza with Centaur
My priorities really haven't changed much. Financial priorities tend to constrain some of that. Changing on a whim isn't really on option.
re: bike priorities?laffeaux
Dec 18, 2002 3:41 PM
1 function
2 comfort/fit
3 weight
4 appearance
5 durability
6 cost
7 aero
8 exclusiveness

The middle section (3-5) seems to jostle for position depending on the part, and any of the three can overrule the others, i.e. if it's durable and light, but butt-ugly, I'm not buying it.

Cost always factors in too. I generally don't pay much attention to it, unless the part far exceeds the price of the competition.
here goesToothpick
Dec 18, 2002 3:46 PM
1 comfort/fit
2 durability
3 appearance
4 cost
5 function
6 weight
7 aero
8 exclusiveness
curious: why aero so unimportant?yeah right
Dec 18, 2002 4:14 PM
seems like many spend on hundreds on aero components.

not woth it? only good for racing, and therefore low in desirability for non-racers?
like this?DougSloan
Dec 18, 2002 8:08 PM
Just not the "main ride":



Or maybe most bikes are "aero enough" as they are?

Doug
actually, becauseDougSloan
Dec 18, 2002 8:30 PM
I'd bet either most people don't care how fast they go, or when they do, they're drafting.

Doug
My selection priority was:GeoCyclist
Dec 18, 2002 5:28 PM
I went through the bike selection process last month and my priorities were as follows:

comfort/fit
function
weight
exclusiveness
appearence
durability
aero
cost

As a result I bought the following bike. This pic was taken just after assembly.
Missing PhotoGeoCyclist
Dec 18, 2002 5:34 PM
I forgot to copy the URL info!
They make brake/shifter cable in black (nm)53T
Dec 19, 2002 8:00 AM
photos of new ride/new priorities:DougSloan
Dec 18, 2002 8:21 PM










re: bike priorities?JS Haiku Shop
Dec 19, 2002 6:16 AM
1 comfort/fit
2 durability
3 function
4 cost (let's say "value")
5 appearance
6 weight, aero, exclusiveness
Maybe I march to a different drummer..DINOSAUR
Dec 19, 2002 6:41 AM
I don't see a new bike in the near future. It would be pretty hard to beat what I am riding now as it fits all my needs. Actually I have two bikes, one steel (Colnago Master X-Light) and one aluminum (Klein Quantum Race), two totally different animals providing me me different options on whatever my whim for the day is. A old steel classic or a zoot racer.

My one desire would be a lifetime supply of free tires, then I could start off each month with a new set of tires on each bike.

"All fortune belongs to him who has a contented mind. Is not the whole earth covered with leather for him whose feet are encased in shoes?"