|What makes an athlete great?||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Dec 16, 2002 2:09 PM
|The whole Lance Armstrong debate has not been brought up for a while. People say oh Lance Armstrong is great because he dominates the Tour... then he does it year after year which makes him one of the greatest. Does this make him better than an Olympic marathoner? How about an Olympic kayaker? Or any other sport...
I'd like to hear everyones opinion on this.
|A good press agent nm||mohair_chair|
Dec 16, 2002 2:24 PM
Dec 16, 2002 2:31 PM
|Is the question what makes him a great athlete? or is it Why do we perceive him as one? |
If it's the former I would say it's a combination of Extreme sacrifice and hard work coupled with a genetic predisposition to excel in areas beneficial to endurance cycling. The right set of circumstance and a bit of luck don't hurt either.
If you meant why do we percieve him as one then I would say, it's got alot to do with the fact that we're cyclists and he dominates the most popular bike race on earth, not to mention, his dramatic story lending itself to media attention. Being American garnered him even more. We both know they love a good underdog story down there.
It's funny because being Canadian, I've always cheered for anyone but the American. I can't help supporting Lance though... That guy is just too good and his character can't be beat. I have nothing but admiration for him, even if he does suffer the affliction of being American....A Texan no less :)
Dec 16, 2002 4:38 PM
|... of nature that is.
A great athlete is someone, who through sheer determination, defies genetics, physics, and status quo. For example, the 210lb guy that runs a sub 3-hour marathon, or the seventy year old guy that spanks 20 y/olds in a time trial. In other words, someone who excels at a sport not because they can but because they want to.
|Where do you think Lance fit into this? (nm)||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Dec 16, 2002 4:43 PM
Dec 16, 2002 5:50 PM
|Although it is claimed that Lance is a genetic freak of nature, he has certainly defied nature by beating his cancer and he most certainly is great at cycling because he wants to be. A mountain biker I know once told me a story about how bad he felt when he tried to ride during chemo and how it took a couple of years before he started feeling normal again. His stories make me greatly respect what Lance has accomplished.|
|please stop asking this question||collinsc|
Dec 16, 2002 6:23 PM
|I swear youve brought this up like 3 times before.
I hope youre not really expecting an answer as this seems like a highly loaded rhetorical question.
Basically what youre looking for is justification in saying that top sprinters are just as good as top anybody else.
youll get no argument from me. theyre all better than I will ever be.
Dec 16, 2002 6:35 PM
|No it has nothing to do with sprinters. It has something to do with the attitude that I'm a cyclist I'm the hardest sport in the world which leads into I'm a mountain climber... oh thats harder than a shorter event.
Then it just has to do with no good topics lately.
|right, which leads back to your favorite topic||collinsc|
Dec 16, 2002 7:57 PM
|what makes lance better than robbie? or i guess a better example would be what makes roberto better than robbie? what is the difference between a climber (one event) and a sprinter (the other event)
same question. same semantics. different words.
|Well what does make them better?||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Dec 16, 2002 8:20 PM
|What makes Lance better than a marathoner? Or a marathoner better than a 100 m sprinter. Which leads to volume of training means nothing in the pursuit of greatness... and neither does the distance covered.
|Ah, there's that old familiar strain. (nm)||VertAddict|
Dec 17, 2002 12:36 AM
|i'm glad someone is paying attention here (nm)||collinsc|
Dec 17, 2002 12:55 AM
|The only thing that makes one athlete better than another is||Uprwstsdr|
Dec 17, 2002 6:59 AM
As far which type of athlete is better, a long distance specialist, a sprinter, a kayaker, a curler, a golfer, a football player, etc. is absolutely nothing. The only thing that keeps an athlete from being great is cheating, lying and deceipt.
|A great athlete redefines what is humanly possible.||js5280|
Dec 17, 2002 9:47 AM
|This paraphrase from the great athlete, Lance Armstrong. Personally I don't feel you can directly compare from sport to sport. Lance would make a lousy linebacker, Micheal Jordan isn't going to be setting any records up Alp d'Huez, and Tiger probably couldn't land a double-lutz. They all are great athletes but it's entirely different disciplines. However I do think they all fit the definition above and share an intense drive, focus, and posess innate talent that makes them great at what they do.|| |