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Tools(10 posts)

Dec 15, 2002 12:14 PM
Performance has a spin doctor tool kit on sale for $99.
Has anyone used the spin doctor tools? I know that you usually get what you pay for, but the Park tools are A LOT more expensive. I'm just a beginning home mechanic. Thanks for your help.
re: Toolsweldingfellow
Dec 15, 2002 4:28 PM
don't buy cheap tools. you'll regret it down the road. i have slowly amassed a good collection of essientials and alot of them are park. check around the many websites for pricing. you will find some good deals. stuff like hex/allen keys can be found anywhere. campag also makes good tools. try
Don't buy a tool kit!!!!Kerry
Dec 15, 2002 6:14 PM
Buy only the tools you need, and buy good ones. For starters, you only need 3-4 cone wrenches, an allen key set, maybe a 10mm open end wrench, a BB tool, cassette tool, chain whip, and HS wrenches, and you can tear down the entire bike. Few people ever do this, so you can scale back from that list. Determine what maintenance you plan to do, and get the (good) tools for that. Buy additional tools as needed. Don't forget Sears and good hardware stores as sources for things like the allen wrenches, open end wrenches, torque wrenches, etc. Good quality and often better prices than "special" bike tools.
Don't buy a tool kit!!!!blw
Dec 15, 2002 8:41 PM
I am not sure what HS wrenches are. And what about a pair of cable cutters? I am about to change the cables on my bike. Will any cutters work, or are the bike specific ones better? Thanks for taking the time to help.
Cable Cutters...biknben
Dec 16, 2002 6:01 AM
Cable cutters for bikes are a little different. I started out with generic wire cutters that an electrician would use. These have flat blades which pinches the bike cable as it cuts. It did the job but the cable end would start to unwind right away.

A bike specific cutter has a curved blade like a claw. It cuts around the circumference of the cable rather than just on two sides. It helps the end stay together and makes a cleaner cut. These cutters also typically have a crimper for putting end caps on after you've made the cut.

The bike specific cutters have advantages but also can cost $20-$30. I now have the Park cutter. Assuming I don't loose it, it will be the last one I buy.
HS = head set (nm)Kerry
Dec 16, 2002 4:35 PM
Another opinion...Swat Dawg
Dec 15, 2002 8:16 PM
I see the logic in the other replies, but I also think that it can be good to buy a cheap tool set that you upgrade as the tools wear out. There are lot of kits out there on the web for $45-$50 and for the average person who isn't working on a flotilla of bikes everyday you will be fine. You have to be careful to be on point about discarding tools when they get old or else you run the risk of messing up the bike. Park and Pedro's tools are so expensive because they are meant to last a shop that is doing 10-15 repairs and builds a day. This way you can also buy quality based on what you use most, since that will wear out first. Anyway, there's my $.02.

Swat Dawg
So, you buy a cheap tool kit..........gogene
Dec 15, 2002 8:38 PM
....and you giz up your bike, or bust a knuckle because the tool folded on you? Nah, buy the very best you can afford, whether a complete kit or a tool at a time. If you can't afford the best, wait until you can. Kerry's advice is spot on. You don't need a lot to start with. But still buy good and take pride in your workmanship. A wiser man than I once told me that it is better to spend fifty dollars once, rather than twenty-five dollars twice. Don't cheap out.
how does a tools age run the risk of 'messing up a bike" ?Steve_0
Dec 16, 2002 4:37 AM
Some of my tools are well over 50 years old. Quality, well-cared for tools will last generations.
You really don't need a whole lot toolsB2
Dec 16, 2002 3:02 PM
Even if you're building a bike from scratch, you don't need much. What's all this talk about Park and Pedros being such high quality. Personally I think they could be a little better quality and I wouldn't think of purchasing anything less (not that I know of anything better either).

Let the shop handle the tasks that require the expensive tools (presses, facing and alignment, etc.) and buy good quality for the few that you really need.

My 2 Cents,