Dec 12, 2002 5:44 PM
|What's the forums' overall opinion of this manufacturer?|
|re: Ciocc...You like?||The Human G-Nome|
Dec 12, 2002 6:18 PM
|i just bought one a few weeks ago. i'll tell you all about it in January when it arrives.|
|re: Ciocc...You like?||netso|
Dec 13, 2002 4:12 AM
|I have owned a steel CIOCC since 1984. It is a Mockba model with Record components. It was and is a sweet ride. A great manufacturer a beautiful bike.|
|Love !! .nm.||pben|
Dec 13, 2002 6:22 AM
|yeah, but how do you pronounce it?||tarwheel|
Dec 13, 2002 7:04 AM
|Could be worse, though -- like Guerciotti|
|Who posted the recordings of the Italian pronunciations?||Uprwstsdr|
Dec 13, 2002 7:48 AM
|yeah, but how do you pronounce it?||netso|
Dec 13, 2002 8:00 AM
|Chee-otch-a. nm||Eager Beagle|
Dec 13, 2002 8:03 AM
Dec 13, 2002 8:38 AM
|As in "roach"?? nm||Eager Beagle|
Dec 13, 2002 8:48 AM
|Chee-otch-a. nm||The Human G-Nome|
Dec 13, 2002 9:08 AM
|this is the closest pronunciation. it's actually a two-syllable word. there isn't necessarily an "a" at the end of the "ch". i saved that italian link and i'll post it this evening unless someone beats me to it.
i would say cho-ch. (with the stress on "cho") you really can't hear much more then that on the audio.
|by the way||The Human G-Nome|
Dec 13, 2002 9:09 AM
|you will almost NEVER see a thread on the internet re: Ciocc where a discussion of the pronunciation doesn't come up. in fact, i've yet to see it.|
|there in lies one of the inherent beauties of the brand... nm..||pben|
Dec 13, 2002 9:22 AM
Dec 13, 2002 9:59 AM
|I've had two, still ride and race one. No flashy Nag like paint jobs, but for 2003 they've made a lot of changes and introduced many more models. Look for their prices to increase as they're obviously *placing* themselves alongside Coppi, Fondriest, DeRosa, etc.
Eager Beagle got the spelling right. Almost two syllables, che-aaaahtch.
Mine gets oooohd and aaahd all the time.
Dec 13, 2002 11:27 AM
|Ciocc is Italian slang for a woman's private parts.
Incidentally, I love ciocc, both the bike and the forementioned definition. I've had an 84 ciocc (the bike). I don't know if it has the same makers today though.
|re: Ciocc...You like?||ASiegel993|
Dec 14, 2002 4:19 PM
|I as well am curious to hear about the overall view of this manufacturer, seeing as how I'm very close to buying a Challenger frameset. The Challenger is a SC61.10 aluminum frameset with carbon seatstays that is almost identical to the Pinarello Prince. The post in here about the prices going up scares me since I'm really interested in this frame mostly because of it's sub 1000 dollar (USD) price at maestro-uk.com . The overall sentiment that I'm getting from this topic seems to be good, although most of it has to do with how to pronounce the name. From the limited Italian that I speak, I've come to believe that it's Chee-Och. no syllables afterwards. However, does anyone who speaks Italian other than me know if the "cc" at the end of the word is different that it is in the middle of the word? Oh, and if anyone's worried about the quality of the bikes, it's the same as a Pinarello or DeRosa, since there's a decent chance that a Pinarello or DeRosa that you buy may be built by Ciocc but to either Pinarello's or DeRosa's specifications. So the quality of the bike is right up there with some of the best Italian frames, but the specs and tube shapes and geometries will be different than a Pinarello or DeRosa, even though they'll be very very similar. Now if only it weren't for that 10 week wait since it has to be ordered. Dirty son of a...