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Look 357/396(11 posts)

Look 357/396Aztecs
Dec 11, 2002 5:25 AM
Any thoughts on these. Currently I have the Look 206 pedals on my bike. I am getting a new bike and need another set of pedals (will still be using both bikes). I assume their are no weight restrictions, right? I am 220 (size 46 shoe). What is the main difference between these two pedals? Is it the "Free Arc" feature on the 396? Is this worth the extra money. It would be great if someone could explain this "Free Arc" feature as well.

Thanks
re: Look 357/396castrello
Dec 11, 2002 5:36 AM
Well, I cant explain the free arc thing, but I can say that I own and use the 357 and Im very satisfied with their performance. But they have a tendency to be slightly noisy when the cleat is dry. I lube the once in a while (the cleats) and that seems to cure the problem for a while. I have heard that this is not an issue with other models. Maybe the 396 will be quieter?
re: Look 357/396Spunout
Dec 11, 2002 5:42 AM
Free-Arc works, if you need float. Having adjustable float is handy when finding the position for your cleats. IF your knees start to hurt, increase the float awhile.

Don't have a problem with squeaking, but I keep them and the cleats clean and degreased.
396 comes in several colors; 357 doesn't (nmm)Starliner
Dec 11, 2002 6:07 AM
But 396 not in silver so I bought 357.StevieP
Dec 11, 2002 6:43 AM
Colour was the deciding factor for me. I wanted silver so it had to be the 357.

Comments wise, mine echo Spunout's above.

Shouldn't this post be on the components board?!
Nobody has mentioned it, however...No_sprint
Dec 11, 2002 7:25 AM
The 2nd main difference other than the adjustable float is the entrance and release tension. They are both higher on the 396. So, each on it's lowest tension, the 396 will be stiffer to get into and out of. Think of it like snow ski bindings, the *pro* models start out harder to get into and out of than beginner or *rec* models.

Personally I don't like float at all. I use the black cleats and set the pedal to 2 on all my 396s. Perfect in my opinion.
My knees beg for float...GileyD
Dec 11, 2002 9:00 AM
Used various models of Look pedals over the years with red cleats and had absolutely no probs with any of them.

Recently got PP396's for a new bike, keep 'em on highest tension and they're fine, no chance of accidental release but float to keep my knees happy.

Wouldn't use any other make of (road) pedal.
I got both and here is the real deal with them.LC
Dec 11, 2002 9:51 AM
If your happy with the 206 then you will probally be happy with the 357 except they might squeak when wet or dirty with the aluminum surface. The 396 squeak just as much as the 357 but there are ways to temporarily quiet them down. The 396 adds the adjusable free float (0, 3, 6, or 9 deg) which I can't really say does much as I just set it on 6 or 9 leave it alone anyway. 0 deg float means that you are locked straight into the pedal with no ability to pivot left or right. the 357 comes with 9 deg float and you just have to live with that. The entry/release tension is much higher on the 396 with the min setting about equal to the max setting of the 357, and are really better suited for racing.
Thanks for the comparison. I think the 357 is for for me (nm)Aztecs
Dec 11, 2002 10:36 AM
if you decide on 396's...Rubiks_Manuever
Dec 11, 2002 10:16 AM
I posted this a coupla days ago, but if you decide to go with the 396's, then go to ebay and find the buy it now auction from o2bikes--they are $68.88 brand new, and that's the lowest I've found anywhere. On their actual website they are higher.
Squeek!amflyer
Dec 11, 2002 2:02 PM
Something I've noticed is that the LOOK branded cleats, as supplied with the pedals, squeek much more than the off-brand american cleats. I've also noticed that the French cleats wear much quicker.

Non-scientific, of course, but reproducible in my cases at least.

Steve