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For people who are not runners..(17 posts)

For people who are not runners..Qubeley
Dec 10, 2002 6:24 PM
This picture of Lance running made me think: what was the last time I ran?
Well, I can't really remember when was the last time I ran. Of course I occasionally have to chase the bus or jump out of the way of a mad car, but that's at most 20 yards. To run as an exercise? Not in ages.
It's kind of funny that I put in thousands of miles a year(4500 this year, 1700 of which on the fixed), but never run for even 1 mile. Running has never appealed to me, the burning of lung, the jumping and landing that shake all your organs, the slowness.. I really like the change of scenery and smoothness of road bike riding.
Anybody who can claim they have the longest time of not running?
re: For people who are not runners..eyebob
Dec 10, 2002 6:30 PM
I went for a 2 mile run about 2 months ago. 1 run, lots of stiffness for 3 days afterward. I was shocked. I ride/race quite a bit and like you probably put in about 5K per year but the muscle groups that you use to run are so different than the ones that you use to cycle it's shocking. I'm going to download this pic to remind me to mix up my training more.

On the upside now that its 10 degrees out, I've caught the xc skiing bug. Similar to running only you fall down too.

Good pic and post.

BT
It's not different muscles...Wayne
Dec 11, 2002 6:12 AM
in fact, it's pretty much all the same ones with more or less emphasis on certain ones, but that's not why you get so sore. You get so much sorer from running than cycling (even if you control for training history) because of
1) The pounding involved in running
and more importantly
2) running involves eccentric contractions (contraction while the muscle is lengthening) esp. the quads, while cycling is almost entirely concentric contractions (contractions while muscle is shortening).

This is why elite runners maybe do one or two shorter (15-30 minute) races a week, and only 1 or 2 marathons (2+ hours) a year, when elite cyclists can race for 4-6 hours for 3 weeks at a time.
Interesting Wayne, as always, thanks... NMeyebob
Dec 11, 2002 8:04 AM
ran 1 week ago, strained some tendon, now on hiatusweiwentg
Dec 10, 2002 7:48 PM
again. I entered cycling with the intent of doing triathlons, and ended up road racing. restarted running with the intention of helping cyclocross. I had completed several runs before last week, though.
re: For people who are not runners..Fez
Dec 10, 2002 7:57 PM
I started running this winter. Prior to that, I haven't run in about 10-15 years.

Its either been too cold or too wet to ride so I decided to try running. It is a little hard on the legs and feet, but I try not to go more than 3x a week.

I just do an hour and use the HRM. I could do more, but its boring and I don't want to risk injury. It is amazing how you can dress much lighter and not worry as much about your hands and feet getting cold. The wind effects are not as dramatic while running as they are cycling.
Just the pic or...empacher6seat
Dec 10, 2002 8:52 PM
does lance have slightly bowed legs?
I used to run during the winter...adamo18
Dec 10, 2002 8:56 PM
I was up to running 6-8 miles a day, 7:30min or less a mile. Then I started adding miles too quickly, tore my achilles tendon off my heel bone! Could barely walk for months, had to wear a small cast for 2 months. Now I never run, but ride my Trek5200 4+ times a week.
as a good friend once said...yeah right
Dec 10, 2002 9:12 PM
running will get you into riding shape,

but

riding won't get you into running shape
RESPECT RUNNING & ALL OTHER SPORTS AS WELL!Tunji
Dec 10, 2002 10:19 PM
Nice pic & post Qubeley! Running, done properly, can only enhance our cycling. With the correct shoes, high tech gear, the right terrain & proper running program, you'll be looking to compete in your local duathlons & tri's next summer! After reading some of the reply's & some post, I'm starting to understand why some athletes consided rodies to act elitist (haters!). I used to be that way about JAZZ...but I'm not any more, maybe because I'm over 50 & have learned a few things. To make some of the statements I've read, leaves me to assume that a lot of you don't respect other sports because you've never played them. I played foot/base/& basketball in HS & basketball in college (ncaa tourn w/3 pros on our team, no BS!) I wasn't in love with running back then, but I knew the benefit. Running can get you that base fitness you need to improve your self in many sports. Everything from sking, basketball, football, hockey, boxing, speed skating, even Tiger runs 5-6 miles a day! When I came back to cycling in my 40's, I was able to keep up with the training peloton in Central Park (NY) on a hard tail MTB....I attribute this to my running program (marathon training w/ hill & speed work) Down load some of the running programs from runnersworld.com or metrosports.com & check out some of the beginner running programs so you won't hurt yourself! Enjoy your cross training. Hey.....don't forget to do some weights!
Haven't run in 29 years.........Len J
Dec 11, 2002 5:01 AM
believe it or not.

Ran Marathons in high school. Hard core training 7 days a week, 120 to 150 miles per week for 3 years and then developed damaged hips & knees. MD told me that if I wanted to walk when I was 40 I better find another sport. I found cycling. Have not run since. I'm now 47 and I am still walking, thank you.

Len
Last night / running boring??Captain Morgan
Dec 11, 2002 6:38 AM
Just ran for about 45 minutes last night. It is a great time of year to run because you can look at the neighborhood Christmas lights. Of course, it was 70 degrees last night, so I don't know if the snowbirds can easily do this.

The biggest gripe I read from the roadies is about running being "boring." I find that I can clear my mind a lot better running than cycling. Cycling takes much more concentration. Plus, you can wear a Walkman safely while running.
Anyone know what event this is? answer insideNo_sprint
Dec 11, 2002 7:36 AM
It's probably the Dirty Duathlon. He just won it two days ago. He brought Hincapie, Landis and others along for the ride. He set a new event record I believe.
I went a few years until last summer...biknben
Dec 11, 2002 7:55 AM
I played sports in HS and continued into my low-mid 20s then went to the bike full-time.

Last winter, I went back to running for x-training. I was simply amased that I had forgotten how to run. The first two times my feet were flopping and I felt like I was all over the place. Thankfully, the motion came back to me.
That's it. "feet were flopping" aptly describes my effort too.eyebob
Dec 11, 2002 8:09 AM
Maybe I need to try some more to find my rhythim again. You know, I never thought that I'd "forget" how to run, but I guess that you can.

BT
re: For people who are not runners..Sep
Dec 11, 2002 8:54 AM
Running is both portable (don't need much gear, can get started quickly, can do it anywhere in virtually any weather) and is super efficent (quickest way to get a good workout - best exercise per hour short of cross country skiing, swiming or rowing - all of which need special gear, location and/or weather). I started running 18 mo's ago and have come to appreciate it's elegance and simplicity. My biking has improved dramatically as a result of my running cross training. My longest to date has been 12.2 in prep for a 1/2 marathon.

This ode to running doesn't change the fact that the first few miles of each of my runs is punctuated by me thinking "Why in hell am I doing this" or "I'll never hold this pace or finish this run". Like the ad says: Unlike other sports, nobody ever passes a runner and thinks - "Gee, that looks like fun - I think I'll give it a try".
re: For people who are not runners..outofthesaddle
Dec 11, 2002 9:14 AM
I really enjoy running. The efficiency and simplicity of it. To be able to got out in any weather (I live in CA) without a lot of extra gear. I've run off and on for a long time. Last year during the off season I ramped up my mileage and did a marathon in January. Unfortunately, I think I ramped too quickly and have had problems with tendonitis ever since. After lots of antiinflamatory medication, 8 weeks of therapy, hours of stretching, a bone scan, a cortisone injection, and many visits to various doctors - I've given up running for a while (maybe longer).