|What's the best car for the bike obsessed?||MPH74|
Dec 5, 2002 1:52 PM
|Now, what I'm getting at is what is the ideal car for someone who is normally on a bike. let's say the typical racer who is always carting their bike from place to place... do you go for a pick-up (and expose your bike to the elements)... do you go for an SUV (to keep your pride and enjoy warm within while killing the environment)... is there an SUV that doesn't guzzle gas? what other car... is there a car out there that is ideal for toting your bike. maybe something with a bike friendly trunk. do you love your current car cuz of the way it adapts to your biking needs? do you just toss your bike on a rack and let it fend for itself?|
|re: What's the best car for the bike obsessed?||Leroy|
Dec 5, 2002 2:01 PM
|I've got an '89 chrysler convertible,the ideal biking car. Just drop the top, throw the bike in back and go. We're all exposed to the elements.|
Dec 5, 2002 2:16 PM
|I hauled my bikes on a roof rack on my compact sedans for years. I got a minivan about 10 months back, but not for the bikes, for the family. I've discovered it's an extreamly bike friendly vehicle.
One bike fits in the rear behind the 3rd seat across the back of the car without interferring with any of the 7 passenger seats. The bike rides secure with the back wheel snug to the right side and the handlebars swung to straddle one of the rearseat headrests. I bring my bike to everything now just in case a ride window develops.
For multiple bikes, I flip the 3rd row seats forward. I slide the fork over the flipped seat and rest the fork and downtube on the padded flipped seat. I've had 3 bikes in no problem and could probably fit 4.
Of course, your "typical" racer might not want to show up with to play with the other CATS in his minivan : )
|One of the best pros in our area||No_sprint|
Dec 5, 2002 2:19 PM
|shows up to the races in his minivan. Thurlow Rogers.|
|an a-typical CAT, for sure : ) (nm)||Scot_Gore|
Dec 5, 2002 2:31 PM
|definitely. a-typically good too. Thurowly dominating. nm.||No_sprint|
Dec 5, 2002 2:35 PM
|2nd the minivan||lonefrontranger|
Dec 5, 2002 5:50 PM
|and who gives a flying F what "they" think.
I know several very good racers (and one pro) who have them for hauling gear around. Scotty Weiss of GoMart / Team WV drives one, too just for the record.
Oh, yeah - we have a Subaru wagon, too. The itty bitty one.
|3rd the Minivan.||MB1|
Dec 6, 2002 7:30 AM
|We can put all our bikes and 4 people inside our extended wheelbase Chevy Venture Minivan with the rear seat out. Our tandem slips between the middle seats without taking the front wheel off.
Miss M loves having all that room for stuff and being able to change clothes without being a contortionist. I like being able to leave the bikes in the van overnight without worring about theft.
Who could ask for anything more?
|3rd the Minivan.||brian n|
Dec 6, 2002 12:02 PM
|Who could ask for anything more?
Toyota??? ha ha ha. sorry.
|yes, they make the best broomwagons||cyclopathic|
Dec 6, 2002 6:52 AM
|esp the ones with tinted windows. Throw seats out, put a mounting bar in and don't ever worry about leaving you bike(s).
On extended trips you will never have a problem to pack gear, and it dubs as a camper just bring alone slipping bag.
|and rolling wheelpits, too||lonefrontranger|
Dec 6, 2002 9:14 AM
|Our extended wheelbase Dodge Grand Caravan has been an instant success at any race we offered it as sag and/or wheel support. With both benches out, you can fit what looks like a million wheels in it. For the Boulder Roubaix last year we borrowed a roof rack with six mounts from a friend. With this setup we were able to carry *all* the spare wheels for the Cat III field (~120 riders), plus we sagged an average of 4-5 riders PER LAP.
When we promoted in Ohio, our local official used to ask us to bring the benches along; we would then take them out to convert the van to sag, and put the benches along the roadside for the finish marshal team. He and his scorers would then lounge in style for the long periods of time you have to stand/sit around waiting for the field to come through on a circuit road race. He said they made a vast improvement over metal folding chairs!
I have a picture somewhere that we used as a tongue in cheek promo shot for a really difficult race we held in SE Indiana. It was taken from an angle which showed the official and my teammates lounging around in the benches, with the hatch of the van popped to show a couple more riders, two bikes and a bunch of spare wheels sitting in the back. It was pretty cool.
|it is also the vehical of choice||cyclopathic|
Dec 6, 2002 11:17 AM
|for RAAM crews, I've heard they even manage to cook in while sagging :)
Caravan is nice just watch out for transmission. Crysler uses the same tranny down from Neon up to Grand Caravan, and at sag speeds in modulated terrain they overheat and go out. It is not a bad idea to get a van with towing package or add an exra trans cooler if it weren't factory installed.
I've used mine going to mtb events and it beats crap out of camping, esp in cold rainy weather. Then when you get back waisted it takes only a few min to throw everything in the back and get going. Pls driving you can always pull out in service area, jump in sleeping bag and get 40min powernap, nice!
|the joy of buying used:||lonefrontranger|
Dec 6, 2002 12:40 PM
|We bought ours as a 2-year lease turn-in. The joy of buying used Dodge minivans is that they are common as rats and you can spec any package you want in whatever color you want, and get the whole daggone thing loaded for about half the cost of a new one. When we went van shopping, we spec'd a tranny cooler/tow package in ours simply because we knew we would use it for sag.
Well over 150K on ours and going strong. When it finally dies, get this: we plan to get one of the ones with the tacky-assed VCR/TV console for playing video games at overnight events!
Who says you have to have four-year-olds to own a minivan?
|Lamborghini.... no joke.||brian n|
Dec 6, 2002 11:59 AM
|there's a guy from the philly area who I've seen racing masters (i believe) who has a yellow lamborghini outfitted with a bike rack. i'm about 98% positive he rides a C-40 too... no joke.
if you're that guy and you read this, what gives?
|I'd do it if I had the money! nm||DougSloan|
Dec 6, 2002 1:00 PM
|Volkswagen Eurovan MV...||merckx56|
Dec 5, 2002 2:23 PM
|with the Weekender package. Huge inside, decent mileage, roof pops up, variations for seating, a refrigerator, 201-hp VR6 motor, and you don't see 'em everyday! Two bikes fit comfortably in the back. If you take out the back seat, that goes up to four. And in a pinch, you can sleep in the pop-up roof!|
|Volkswagen Eurovan MV...||Heron Todd|
Dec 5, 2002 3:01 PM
|Yep, got one. 2002 Eurovan MV Weekender.
>Two bikes fit comfortably in the back. If you take out the back seat, that goes up to four. And in a pinch, you can sleep in the pop-up roof!
I've put 4 in the back plus two on a hitch rack. I've also spent one weekend sleeping in the pop top. Don't forget the under-seat refrigerator to keep your pop and energy drinks cool!
LaSalle, IL 815-223-1776
|I love those||sn69|
Dec 5, 2002 4:31 PM
|And I hope that VW makes a weekender version of the new retro bus. If they do, I'll have to have one, it's as simple as that.|
|Considering the past days, I think it's pretty darn obvious...||No_sprint|
Dec 5, 2002 2:25 PM
|An SUV. Bigger the better. Larger, darker, louder, tinted windows, the more dangerous and hazardous to the small car drivers, the better. Make sure you got a bomb system in there to blast Eminem. Gotta go for the Navigator or Escalade or the big daddy, the Excursion. Hook a draftmaster on the back and you're set. Make sure it's your daily commuter too. Throw all sorts of heavy junk in there to haul around too, just to take that mpg down from 10 to 8! Put on your shades and wear your *treehugger and environmentalists stick it up your @ss* bumpersticker with pride!
just kiddin' :)
|Subaru Legacy or Outback||ColnagoFE|
Dec 5, 2002 2:32 PM
|Decent mileage and you can store a bike or two and gear inside pretty easily. I usually just use the roof rack on mine though.|
|This is what I currently have||sn69|
Dec 5, 2002 4:33 PM
|99 Outback with a Yakima roof rack. Most of the time, I put the bikes inside, but I do long trips with them on the roof.
I agree, it's a great car with a peppy engine and good milage. I've even had the thing legitimately off road (Anza Borrego State Park), and it did fine.
I just replaced the tires at 60K miles.
|Subaru WRX Wagon||grzy|
Dec 5, 2002 2:37 PM
|Goes like greased snot, corners like it's on rails, and is a blast to drive. All this for around $25K new or less than $20K used. You can toss the bike in the back or go with a set of roof racks if you need the interior space. |
I dare you to drive one and NOT buy it.
I've got a little 2.5RS coupe and can actually toss my 56 cm frame and wheels in the trunk!
|true dat Grzy!||shawndoggy|
Dec 5, 2002 4:33 PM
|Was in the market last year for a new car and instead of getting the conservative "smart" choice (Honda Odyssey minivan), I drove the WRX and and haven't looked back. Put a hitch on from e-trailer.com for $110 shipped and get a hitch rack and you are in business.
It's a ridiculous car for me on paper... family of four, lots of long distance travel to see the relatives, etc., but man is it a fun car 95% of the time. 10 hour drives with a six year old and a three year old leave a bit to be desired though... can see the benefit of the video system there!
I just can't wait till the warranty's up so I can go spend some $$$ at http://www.vishnutuning.com and make it really fast.
Oh yeah, mileage does kinda suck for such a small car. I'm lucky if I get 20 in town/26 on the road.
Dec 6, 2002 10:00 AM
|Your relatively poor gas milage wouldn't have anything to do with your agressive driving habits per chance? ;-) I know mine does! |
Swap out the 15mm coat hanger of a rear swaybar and slap a 22mm one in there for around $165. The car will stop it's annoying habit of understeering.
Dec 5, 2002 9:46 PM
|I'm looking forward to getting one used some day--if I can find one that hasn't been too badly abused!|
|I've been wanting one of these since they came out||pmf1|
Dec 6, 2002 5:49 AM
|Once my 1991 NX-2000 dies on me, that's what I want. Hopefully I can find a used one ceap since I don't drive much.
Station wagons really are the way to go. All the manuverability of a car and lots more room. My wife has a Volvo V70 wagon and its been great for hauling bikes, although a little dull to drive. Seats are very comfortable though.
|Subaru WRX Wagon. Yeah!||MrCelloBoy|
Dec 6, 2002 11:21 AM
|We finally mounted our old style Yakima crossbars and wind deflector, via "lowriders" to our WRX sportwagon's factory rack. It's the ultimate bike wagon.
Our Calfee tandem goes in the back with both wheels off and the car handles like a bike!
I'll post a photo one of these days.
|VW Passat Wagon 1.8T w/5 speed n/m||fracisco|
Dec 5, 2002 2:59 PM
|I'm not a racer, typical or otherwise,||Steve98501|
Dec 5, 2002 3:07 PM
|But I'm happy with my Subaru Outback. If I'm by myself and just hauling the bike to the Tues/Thurs club ride after work, I can push the back seats forward and carry my bike inside - secure and safe from inclement weather. If it's an organized weekend ride in another county, two bikes go on the roof racks (I think there's room for a third), and two bikes go on the hitch mounted rack since I won't be towing the boat to a bike ride. Four people, four bikes, and duffle bags in the back of the car. That's a pretty good load, but it works fine.|
|Toyota Prius for hauling one or two bikes/people.||PdxMark|
Dec 5, 2002 3:24 PM
|A roof rack is easy to reach. The trunk & back seat are plenty for gear. It'll spew fewer nasty fumes that you'll suck into your lungs once you get on your bike than almost any other vehicle. Some states even give tax credits for buying it.
Not a good fit to regularly haul more than 2 people & bikes.
|lotus elise||mike r|
Dec 5, 2002 3:48 PM
|you commute so it doesn't have to be an every day car, does over 30mpg and has low emissions.
all you need is for someone to drive you to the races.
don't have a car and i figure a second hand lotus will cost about 5 times that of my bike. so i keep the bike for 5 years and have the cost of a nice lotus (maybe i should stop dreaming)
Dec 5, 2002 5:46 PM
|re: What's the best car for the bike obsessed?||Donger|
Dec 5, 2002 4:01 PM
|I can easily fit 4 bikes+gear inside the back of my Isuzu Trooper w/ 2 passengers. 3 bikes w/ 4 passengers and plenty of room to spare.|
|Audi Avants! S6 Avant, Allroad, S4 Avant, A4 Avant...||jtferraro|
Dec 5, 2002 4:58 PM
|although I only have a heavily modified A4 1.8T quattro sedan. My car is the winter car w/it's quattro awd, snow tires, and fold down rear seats(snowboards) and my girlfriend's car is the summer car, as it is the bike hauler. It's a 2002 Mazda Protege5(small, sporty wagon).
|Peugeot - perhaps not the PX10||Chainstay|
Dec 5, 2002 5:48 PM
|BMW M3 with a bike rack. nm||fbg111|
Dec 5, 2002 8:53 PM
|re: What's the best car for the bike obsessed?||paper warrior|
Dec 6, 2002 12:23 AM
|I'm a bicycle commuter 10 miles round trip a day though I don't feel the need to feel superior to anybody with a SUV or motorcycle- I just feel free to weave between them at the stoplight.
also if you recall the ESPN commercial where the lights went at the ESPN studio so they went outside to check on Lance Armstrong who was pedaling the generator. My reaction was "shove those bicarbs back down his throat before he pollutes again!"
Dec 6, 2002 4:30 AM
|take the wheels off and a bicycle will fit inside nearly any car.
i need to question 'bike obsessed' for someone who is always carting their bike around though (race obsessed, maybe).
|No Car. Just cycle. I rent if I need one. nm||Spunout|
Dec 6, 2002 4:54 AM
|93 Jeep Cherokee||funknuggets|
Dec 6, 2002 9:08 AM
|Can haul about anything and get just about anywhere. It does suck, however that if you have your spare inside, and the rear seat up, you cant fit a bike inside the back with only the front wheel off. But, it runs like a top, I dont really care if I get grease on it or accidentally spill an energy drink. Plus, has a roof rack and has a back hitch as well. So, in worst case, I can carry 10 bikes. Looks pretty cool! Paint and everything was tight too until a hailstorm last year (dont worry bike was inside). Insurance totalled it, wrote me a check for the total value less deductible and it still runs like a top... hello new LeMond!|
|Small pickup with a canopy||LC|
Dec 6, 2002 10:03 AM
|Small pickups get pretty good gas milage. I have 3 mounts so I can carpool to the ride starts. Sometimes I need 2 bikes for a stage race (ie TT bike and road bike.) Using quick release fork mounts on the bed floor. My bikes get to ride in style. I could not even think about driving down the freeway with my bikes getting pounded by wind and rain like I see on tops of cars. Also really nice if you mountain bike since you can still throw in a dirty Mtn bike and then hose it out when you get home. Like to see how you hose out a car or SUV!|
|re: What's the best car for the bike obsessed?||alvinator|
Dec 9, 2002 2:55 AM
|How about a Dodge Ram Diesel Extracab 160" wheelbase with a Cap? You can put the Dodge Caravan in the back when it sags.
Plus it's quiet enough to be classified as a stealth truck! Just kidding.