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the 2003 Jamis road bikes(3 posts)

the 2003 Jamis road bikesstan_b
Dec 3, 2002 7:43 AM
I bought a 2002 Jamis Eclipse a couple of months ago so I was curious to check out their new bikes.

Turns out the new Eclipse is half a pound lighter than mine and has some Dura-Ace mixed in now.

Jamis has also introduced a new model - the Xenith - which has now become their top model. It says the frame is made with a lithium alloy. I had never heard of that metal being used before on frames.

I paid the list price of $2200 for my 2002 Eclipse. I've tried to find the new prices on the web but haven't been successful. Does anyone know how much the new models (Xenith and Eclipse) are going for?
re: the 2003 Jamis road bikesgeeker
Dec 3, 2002 7:18 PM
"It says the frame is made with a lithium alloy. I had never heard of that metal being used before on frames."

Dedacciai's "U2" ultra-lightweight aluminum tubeset uses a lithium alloy. It's pretty new, and is used on some pro-level framesets. I'd check the warranty; wouldn't expect more than 2 years on such a light frame.

Sorry, can't help with the prices, but I'd expect the Xenith to be pretty expensive based on what various U2 frames go for.
Aluminum-Lithium Alloyjoekm
Dec 4, 2002 11:20 AM
I seem to recall that back in the mid 80's, Boeing was experimenting with an aluminum-lithium alloy. Supposedly had excellent fatigue and damage tolerance properties as compared to 2024 and other typical alloys. I'm not certain, but I think some of the issues raised were that it was expensive and there was concern that a technician might accidentally approve a damaged part for return to service thinking it was this new alloy when it was in fact a more traditional aluminum alloy.

But, again, this was some time ago and I'm not sure.

Regarding the Eclipse, my first impression is that a carbon rear end on a steel frame is kinda like a Ferrari with an automatic transmission. But I'll withhold opinion until I am more knowledgable about carbon fiber as a frame material.