|Who builds the lightest hubs... front or rear?||CARBON110|
Nov 26, 2002 3:28 PM
|Anyone? Ithink Zipp has the lightest rear, and American classic the front?|
|What do you think your picks weigh?||Kerry|
Nov 26, 2002 4:25 PM
|Campy Record/Shimano DA front = 120 gm, Campy Record rear = 255, DA rear = 316. Remember, AC, KC, Hugi, Zipp all advertise weight w/o skewers, Campy/Shimano advertised weight includes skewers. The above numbers are w/o skewers for a fair comparison.|
Nov 21, 2002 1:20 PM
|Who cares? Slight weight differentials in the hubs amount to nothing - perimeter weight is what matters on wheels. You swallow half your water bottle and there goes your weight savings with some "light" hubs!|
|Half your water bottle?||Kerry|
Nov 26, 2002 5:35 PM
|It's more like one swallow (ca. 50 grams of water). Half your water bottle would be nearly 350 gm.|
|Okay, take a leak then, get 500g lighter...look out behind! (nm)||Spunout|
Nov 26, 2002 6:10 PM
|Just the Facts Ma'am||grzy|
Nov 26, 2002 5:36 PM
|Hugi's design allows them to make ridiculously light and durable hubs. Currently run a set on the MTB with no adverse affects. Swiss made and very nice. Front hub 95 g., rear hub 245 g. (Shimano compatible) all weights are advertised per their website and are without quick release skewers. |
Zipp Z3 series advertises 70 g. for the front and 170 g. for the rear, but unfortunately you're only offered 18 holes on the front hub and 24 on the rear - not very useful for non-tri-wennies. Model 84 and 202 hubs weight 84 g. up front and 202 g. in the rear but only offer a maximum hole drilling of 24 and 28 respectively. Rotsa ruck finding, then working with all those straight pull spokes. So much for Zipp and the real world.
So while Zipp does make a lighter hub it's not an apples-to-apples comparison b/c it's not offered in a 32 hole drilling. It also remains to be seen just how durable the new and improved Zipp products really are. Hugi is a proven design and comes from the MTB world.
American Classic does offer hubs in normal 32 hole drillings and has a front hub advertised at 68 g. and a rear hub at 225 g., but then you have to deal with all of the reliability issues surrounding American Classic products which has been reported here.
Essentially you're talking a maximum difference of 27 g. (1 oz.) up front and 20 g. in the rear. While it is rotating weight it is very close to the axis of rotation so the effect is quite small. Tire, tube, rim, spoke, and nipple selection will all have a larger effect.
|Just the Facts Ma'am||mpm32|
Nov 27, 2002 7:22 AM
|Don't know the exact weight, but Tune hubs are said to be pretty light.|
|What bothers me...||Nessism|
Nov 28, 2002 5:19 AM
|... is the aluminum freehub body on aftermarket hubs for use on Shimano systems. The Shimano spline steps are not very deep and the individual cogs tend to dig in over time and gouge into the body. The Campy hubs use a deeper spline notch to avoid this problem so Al is fine for that application. At any rate, I'll stick to DuraAce and just live with the extra weight.
|AC front at 68g tune rear at sub 200 (like 180g)||str8dum1|
Nov 27, 2002 7:17 AM
|poshbikes builds their 800g KOM set using tune hubs. Stupid light and $$$$|| |