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In Memoriam(57 posts)

In MemoriamMB1
Nov 26, 2002 7:45 AM
Entered into Eternal Rest Sunday, November 24, 2002. GT EDGE TI of Washington, DC. Beloved ride of MB1, brother of Zaskar LE, Santana Team TI, Gunnar Street Dog and Bianchi Reparto Corsa ‘Crosser.

Your smooth ride we hope to feel again, the miles have passed away, sleep on. Dear Edge Ti, and take your rest, we miss you most who loved you best.
The Sad Fate.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 7:47 AM
During last weekends 2 century rides an odd sound was noted while riding out of the saddle...
Answer = silver duck tape. nmEager Beagle
Nov 26, 2002 7:50 AM
Or solder. nmSintesi
Nov 26, 2002 8:50 AM
Thanks for your kind thoughts, but no. It will rest in honored glory. nmMB1
Nov 26, 2002 8:55 AM
That's DUCT tape - used for taping ducts, not waterfowl! nmBowWow
Nov 26, 2002 12:02 PM
Nov 26, 2002 12:13 PM
is the name of the company that makes DUCT TAPE
Mine's made by 3M... nmBowWow
Nov 26, 2002 12:40 PM
originally called Duck Tapemoschika
Nov 26, 2002 7:18 PM
it was called duck tape in WWII because of it's waterproofing ability. it was designed i to seal ammo boxes.

as a matter of fact it's supposedly not very good with ducts. it's not made to withstand all the heat that flows thru them
Read all about it here....grzy
Nov 27, 2002 10:41 AM
My roll has a little picture of a duck on the inside, andEager Beagle
Nov 29, 2002 3:12 AM
the words "Duck Tape" written underneath. Good enough for me:-)
EB Green would be betterKristin
Nov 27, 2002 7:21 AM
I bet you could build a whole bike out of EB Green and tree branches.
Could this not be repaired?brider
Nov 26, 2002 8:19 AM
I know that after one season on my cusotm TiCycles Softride, I developed a crack that extended about half an inch from either side of a weld. The frame builder is the one who caught it (when I brought it in for reference when I was contracting him to do a track bike for me). He repaired it with a gusset. A frame builder that works with Ti might be able to repair it for you.
No heroic efforts to revive.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 8:45 AM
Edge Ti led a long and full life, no heroic efforts will be made to extend his life.

i.e. The puppy is just plain worn out.
Traslation, (uttered thru corner of mouth) "Shut up already...Kristin
Nov 27, 2002 7:25 AM
"Miss M is willing to let buy a custom Roarke to comfort me during my time of loss."
That is a pretty good translation all right. nmMB1
Nov 27, 2002 1:11 PM
Many proud, happy and hard miles.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 7:50 AM
Relatives and friends may post on RBR general forum 11/26/02. Memorial rides may be reported on RBR through the end of the year.
A sad day.My condolences.PEDDLEFOOT
Nov 26, 2002 8:23 AM
'Foot, really, learn about the "NM" thing and use it! Thx. (NM)RhodyRider
Nov 26, 2002 9:10 AM
Nov 26, 2002 9:21 AM
Yes, thanks! Although, nm belongs this... ;-) (nm)jtferraro
Nov 26, 2002 11:05 AM
Hah - I've been meaning to tell "Foot" this same thing! Thx (nm)jtferraro
Nov 26, 2002 11:04 AM
Hah - I've been meaning to tell "Foot" this same thing! Thx (nm)mainframe
Nov 26, 2002 12:40 PM
Jeff, explain this nm thing further. I've seen where it means no message, however, I'm not quite following.
It is simply a step-saver alert for all the readers out here, byRhodyRider
Nov 27, 2002 6:29 AM
using "nm" it tells everyone that they don't need to click into a poster's message, that the tag line is the only text or message. Hence "No Message", don't bother wasting time going any further, I've said my piece on my title line, go on to the next pithy post.
Or something like that...
By the way, thanks for playing nice, Peddlefoot! :-))
My thoughts are with you in your time of sadness.Scot_Gore
Nov 26, 2002 8:27 AM
Morbid curiosity. How many miles does it take to fatigue an Edge TI frame, roughly speaking ?

Peace by with you

To my everlasting sorrow, not even 60,000 miles. nmMB1
Nov 26, 2002 8:34 AM
Amazing that it fell apart so quickly (nm)KenS
Nov 26, 2002 1:53 PM
So, it was 4 or 5 years old ? (nm)Scot_Gore
Nov 26, 2002 5:05 PM
6 years although I didn't ride it a lot last year. nmMB1
Nov 26, 2002 5:12 PM
Bad News: Good News.Len J
Nov 26, 2002 8:43 AM

Once you are over the required period of mourning, it is good for your mental health to move on................

& order that Rivendell!

That was the first thing Miss M mentioned.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 8:51 AM
Soon the Edge Ti will only be fond memories and I will indeed move on.

The wait is down to about 3 months for the custom Rivendell but in my grief I am considering the in stock Ramboulet....
That was the first thing Miss M mentioned.Len J
Nov 26, 2002 9:33 AM
The wait is down to about 3 months for the custom Rivendell but in my grief I am considering the in stock Ramboulet....

I'm not sure that your grief can be quenched with anything other than the coustom..........especially if the wife agrees.

Rmember in times like these, that through parts donar programsUprwstsdr
Nov 26, 2002 9:02 AM
your loved ones can help others to survive.

My condolences in your time of sorrow.
Comforting thoughts indeed.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 9:13 AM
Should my sorrow allow, everything but the brake calipers will bring a shiny new Ramboulet or Rivendell to life.
Nov 26, 2002 9:42 AM
TI does break (nm)ColnagoFE
Nov 26, 2002 9:34 AM
I'll stop by the rectory at Church on the way home...Gregory Taylor
Nov 26, 2002 9:37 AM
...and add "G. Tedgeti" to the list of the recently departed that are to be remembered at this Sunday's Mass.

The GT was Catholic, wasn't it?
You are so kind.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 9:55 AM
A good Catholic G. Tedgeti took part in many mass rides on Sunday mornings. Related to the GT Al bikes ridden by Lotto and blessed by the pope at the start of the 2000 Giro.
pray to St. Ghisallo for its soultrekkie1
Nov 26, 2002 9:43 AM
The Sanctuary of our Lady of Ghisallo
Patron saint of cyclists.
Magreglio (Como) - Italy
Ashes to ashes....Starliner
Nov 26, 2002 10:09 AM
A funeral bonfire for G. Tedgti would make for a spectacular separation ceremony. You can then tell us if it's true that ti frames will burn.
Nobody mentioned the W word?Fez
Nov 26, 2002 12:12 PM
What happened to the lifetime warranty? Did the GT have a living will that stated it did not want to be revived?

Did the GT carry a parts donor card so they could go to good use on another ride?
The GT that built it actually no longer exists.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 12:30 PM
No warranty for this frame I am afraid.
The GT that built it actually no longer exists.Fez
Nov 26, 2002 2:03 PM
OK, may it RIP. Hope the parts can see new life on another ride.

What happened to GT? I have seen that triple triangle frame as recently as 2001, but in Aluminum. Were they bought out by a big company? Or did they just stop building road frames to concentrate on a different segment of the market.
After Richard Long died in a motorcycle accidentMB1
Nov 26, 2002 5:09 PM
things were never the same. Richard was the businessman, Gary Turner was the shop guy.

The short story-after Richard died GT was sold to the owners of Schwinn. Between the two companies there was just too much debt and the whole mess was shut down. Pacific bought the bankrupt company for the Schwinn name with plans to sell bikes in non bike shop stores (Walmart etc).

Pacific is keeping the GT line just barely going in hopes of finding a buyer.
From what I've heard...Nessism
Nov 26, 2002 6:42 PM
...quite a few of the GT built Ti frames have cracked over the years. Their early frames were made by TST and have held up much better.
I learned this from a guy selling a TST frame this last summer. He aquired the frame through a warranty replacement for his cracked GT - GT sent him a TST frame. Seems the parent company is making, or was making, some effort to uphold the lifetime warranty so they bought some replacement frames from TST. At any rate, sorry for your loss. I always liked the GT Ti frames.

is it just me orFrith
Nov 26, 2002 12:16 PM
does it look like that reinforced triangle business, that GT refuses to give up on, may have contributed to the frame crack?
Interesting thought - is it a frame design defect?PdxMark
Nov 26, 2002 12:27 PM
The "mid-span" (relatively speaking) welds on the seat tube would seem to be at a vulnerable spot. That spot doesn't have the lateral reinforcement of a nearby top tube, as in traditional frame designs. In addition, any butting (if there is any) near the end of a tube would also seem to help in a traditional frame design.

Maybe it's not so unpredictable that the frame broke in that spot...

Condolences nonetheless...
I am afraid it is just me.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 12:39 PM
I generally destroy frames-I ride and travel a lot. Travel damage generally starts the defect then lots of miles finishes it off. I have broken steel, ti and aluminum frames over time.

It was a sweet ride though.
At least you love them to death nmPdxMark
Nov 26, 2002 1:17 PM
It's all that dirt riding on road frames......condolences. nmBrooks
Nov 26, 2002 4:43 PM
Sad but true.MB1
Nov 26, 2002 5:03 PM
Although this frame didn't have much tire clearance I still never avoided dirt and crummy roads.
Yard art? Coffee table stand? Wall hanging?Dave Hickey
Nov 26, 2002 1:09 PM
Don't put her out to pasture. Keep her around for the memories.
No can do, I'm married. nmMB1
Nov 26, 2002 1:33 PM
[J humming 'Taps'] nmJS Haiku Shop
Nov 26, 2002 1:19 PM
My condolences to the bereaved. nmKen of Fresno
Nov 26, 2002 1:22 PM
Lots of stem,could she have choked?n.m.koala
Nov 26, 2002 1:24 PM
It's receiving a 21-gun salute as I type this ...Humma Hah
Nov 26, 2002 4:22 PM
... actually, it sounds more like about a 2100-gun salute, coming from Quantico Marine Base, and I ain't talking about M-16's either.

Either that, or one Iraqi dictator is on someone's menu.