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Can someone explain these?(35 posts)

Can someone explain these?tronracer
Nov 25, 2002 2:21 PM
Are they custom levers? What year are they if not custom? These are slick, but I've never seen them before....
re: Can someone explain these?Rusty Coggs
Nov 25, 2002 2:24 PM
Someone got crazy with a drill.That all matching pink bike is hot!
re: Can someone explain these?tronracer
Nov 25, 2002 2:34 PM
whoever drilled those has gotz skillz. Precision work, I'd be afraid to try that on $250 levers. But they do look trick as can be.
Ahh, those long winter nights...cory
Nov 25, 2002 2:35 PM
Looks to me like a pretty nice job of "adding lightness" by drilling. You're sitting around the living room in the middle of January, wishing you could ride, and there's the bike and a drill press out in the garage and next thing you know you've spent four hours removing 2.4 grams...
No, I don't mean to make fun of it. It used to be a pretty common way of paring weight, and from what I can see, this was intelligenty done (avoids the high stress areas of the lever). Bikes are so carefully built now, though, that I don't know if it's really worth doing. Looks trick, though.
Sad thing its on a steel bike...PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Nov 25, 2002 2:52 PM
The steel would be the first place to lose weight. But if it was just done for style its very cool.

Cheers,
Nick
PodiumBound.ca
Look at it this way. . .czardonic
Nov 25, 2002 3:19 PM
. . .someone wants the ride quality of steel, and is mitigating the weight penalty by drilling out their components.
thems fightin' words pal ;-)Spirito
Nov 25, 2002 10:11 PM
that steel frame weighs 3 pounds if not less. very trick and very light for what it is.

im pretty sure the owner wasnt thinking of saving weight but of being pretty trick and embellsihing his ride in an old skool way which as you say is very cool.

ciao
Really......Rusty Coggs
Nov 26, 2002 5:57 AM
a 3 pound or less lugged steel frame? Really?
What you don't realize...hayaku
Nov 26, 2002 4:32 AM
is that, though the bike may look old and out of date, it may look heavy and have a gaudy colour combo, what you can't see are the magical powers tied into it's lugs and running through it's internal cabling.

These bikes are really something special. I will gladly accept the 50gram weight penalty over my Litespeed Ultimate with Time Millenium fork when the weather takes a turn for spring. Hmmm, spring, new ride, can't wait...

By the way, I think the drilling is mainly done for style. Someone may think that it will reduce enough weight to win the Tour de France but I don't think so.
M.
The look like standard 7700 STI levers to meLC
Nov 25, 2002 2:35 PM
that have been attacked by a mad drill! Hope they don't break off in your hand when your coming down that mountain road.
Speed holes! (nm)Iwannapodiumgirl
Nov 25, 2002 3:18 PM
Pan Flute Shifters!!!Mike P
Nov 25, 2002 3:29 PM
As you ride, you just move your fingers around covering different holes, playing tunes as you would with a flute. Everyone knows it is not save to play the flute while riding.

Mike
They match the king of mountains jersey! NMjaybag
Nov 25, 2002 7:11 PM
Shiman Holes (nm)irregardless
Nov 25, 2002 3:42 PM
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re: Can someone explain these?TimePedal
Nov 25, 2002 3:43 PM
takes guts to do that on a regular pair of DA STI levers, but to do that on the limited edition 25th anniv....wow..
re: Can someone explain these?swvegg
Nov 25, 2002 3:54 PM
I just realized that! Son of a....
re: Can someone explain these?irregardless
Nov 25, 2002 4:32 PM
How are 25th anniversary shifters different from regular DA?
Price......(nm)4bykn
Nov 25, 2002 4:45 PM
Mad Skills53T
Nov 25, 2002 5:20 PM
I am pretty sure that was not the first set of levers this guy has drilled. The work is perfect, there are at least three different drill sizes, and all are countersunk and polished. The distance between the edge of the lever and the edge of the holes in consistant all around. The layout of the drillings is very mature, i.e. it is the result of some trial and error, probably layed out on paper as well. It is reminiscent of traditional punch work on fine leather. As another poster mentioned, the higher-stressed region near the pivot point is undistrurbed. Drillium at its finest, simply beautiful.
Made of 100% pure drillium (nm)Kerry
Nov 25, 2002 4:47 PM
it probably done by a pro for the Nakagawa team nmopencl
Nov 25, 2002 6:01 PM
nm
re: Can someone explain these?Fez
Nov 25, 2002 7:45 PM
Does the drill holes match on the other lever?

Rest of the bike looks a little old. Heliums and a hot pink steel frame? And I haven't seen bar tape like that in a while.
what's the point on a steel bike? nmtrekkie1
Nov 25, 2002 8:36 PM
they are custom drilled...hayaku
Nov 25, 2002 9:00 PM
by Mr. Nakagawa of Osaka, Japan. As some other posters have noted the work is very skillfully done, as is everything else to come out of his factory.

He is a very, very skillful frame maker... but the colours on that bike just give a bad impression.

If you would like to more information his email is info@nakagawa-cw.co.jp He is not good at replying to email unfortunately but good luck. Tell him Mark from Ishikawa refered you;p

This is a picture of my Nakagawa bike. It'll be built up next year for racing, I can't wait!
M.
hayaku - you gotta post a pic of the built bikeErik A
Nov 25, 2002 9:28 PM
when you get the nakagawa bike built up with the modern version of drilled components you gotta post a pic...
Oh, it'll be posted...hayaku
Nov 26, 2002 4:17 AM
Just gonna have to wait a while, my plan is to switch my stuff over in March. I have a great set of wheels built now too so I can't wait!

No drilled leavers unfortunately, but I'm thinking about them for some point further down the track.
M.
Ha!, I bet you couldn't do that with Campy....Bruno S
Nov 25, 2002 9:12 PM
The Record carbon fiber lever would just disintegrate with the drilling. Another irrefutable proof that Shimano is better. Not to mention the award-winning design of STI that integrates shifting and breaking functions into a single lever. Just beauuutiful! I shiver when I see those cheap thumb-levers in the Campy stuff.
I'll take the bait....Iwannapodiumgirl
Nov 25, 2002 9:21 PM
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THIS TO A CARBON RECORD LEVER?

I mean, it is a beautiful work of art straight out of the box! One does not have to drill these to make them a) function better or b) make them more asthetically pleasing.

Only a ShimaNOphile would even raise that as a point - lack of confidence in your (beloved) product no doubt?
What is that cable coming out of the shifter body?DavidS
Nov 25, 2002 10:15 PM
I looked at my campy record levers... no cable!

-Dave S.
..that is where you attach the straw basket ;) (nm)Spunout
Nov 26, 2002 4:58 AM
Don't need to, Record weighs less than even this (nm)irregardless
Nov 26, 2002 9:22 AM
Merckx did similarbrider
Nov 26, 2002 9:01 AM
His hour record bike had the handlebars drilled.

I've seen this before, and it was VERY prevalent in late 70s and early 80s. Drillium.

Not something I'd do with my every day ride, but a fun project on old spare parts.
No offense but a pink frame with red/white cork tape? Ugghh nmeyebob
Nov 26, 2002 11:49 AM
my sentiments also (nm)KenS
Nov 26, 2002 2:06 PM
Structural failure looking for a place to happen. - nmgrzy
Nov 26, 2002 12:13 PM