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Anyone have experience with Nagasawa frame?(17 posts)

Anyone have experience with Nagasawa frame?rwbadley
Nov 24, 2002 9:34 PM
I saw a Nagasawa track frame in a cycle shop in San Fran. Very nice looking. Anybody riding one of the road frames? Just curious...

RW
no but .....Spirito
Nov 25, 2002 7:07 AM
i had seen a track frame at a a LBS and thought it curious and at odds to the other usual italian glitz. having looked a little closer it just screamed well made and hewn from a jeweller. pure, clean and elegant without faddish or ornate embellishments. classic wether old or new.

there is more than one respected framebuilder who would readily agree that nagasawa-san may just be one of the finest lugged framebuilders ever such is the admiration for his craft.

reading other people's comments who have ridden them or seen more examples than i have it sounds like one of those keep for life frames.

then again this is just hyperbole as i havent ridden or seen a road frame nor the coin to try one soon. could well be a "the merak with record 10" candidate for the lugged steel set.

would like to see more but the web only has old catalogues for his road stuf and its hard to capture good details.

let us know ....

ciao
..search this board, there was a pic here some time ago (nm)Spunout
Nov 25, 2002 7:52 AM
link to message here:Spunout
Nov 25, 2002 7:55 AM
hayaku "Which steel bike to choose?" 5/4/02 5:41am
different manufacturer ......Spirito
Nov 25, 2002 8:16 AM
but i did find something cool in the nagakawa racing club page

very cool ........

hayaku : if your reading this let us know how your plans went and if you chose to buld one of their frames (do they come in colors other than pink?)

ciao
a pic of the whole bike .... very cool (but pink)Spirito
Nov 25, 2002 8:26 AM
this is of a nakagawa (not a nagasawa)
new to me ... very interesting thoughSpirito
Nov 25, 2002 8:28 AM
Those levers are Sheeeearp!!!!tronracer
Nov 25, 2002 8:46 AM
New dura Ace??? I never saw those before...
yeah ... its the new "drillium" edition ;-) NmSpirito
Nov 25, 2002 9:14 AM
Drillium days are here again...tronracer
Nov 25, 2002 12:39 PM
Where did those levers come from? Excuse my ignorance, I'm a mtn biker and not too knowledgable on the road stuff. He drilled those himself or can you buy those levers? It's STI, so its got to be fairly new?!?!?
my frame is still waiting for me......hayaku
Nov 25, 2002 9:36 PM
I'm going to build it up at the end of March, snow is just around the corner so I think I'll wait till it's gone. I'll swap most of the parts from my Ultimate and save that for winter/off season use. I'd love to ride it now though, such is life.

You can get the frames in any colour you can imagine, just send a sample in and he'll duplicate it. There is a slight charge for a two colour scheme.

The pink frame is the team colour but I have not been able to reason why he used the red tape and wheels in the photo. Ah well.
M.
no but .....Geig
Jan 1, 2003 11:44 AM
I've never ridden a Nagasawa, but regret not buying one of his road bikes at Yokoo's bike shop near Ueno station in Tokyo many years ago. From what I was told, he was an apprentice at DeRosa for about 5 years, hence the Italian and Japanese flags on the head tube. I did have road and track frames built By Kajihara in Kita-ku, Tokyo. Bill Da vidson also visited him in the early 80's and was impressed with his work.
???????????????????????????????????????Spirito
Nov 25, 2002 8:37 AM
thats what i clicked on to find this very interesting frame

if you click on enough "??????" whilst browsing websites that cant decipher different language character sets you eventually find something interesting
or the FBI knocks on your door and takes you away

from the page

http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~cherubim/gr1.htm

a little ornate for my liking but a lot of grouches and lugged steel fanciers would be drooling at this

ciao
re: Anyone have experience with Nagasawa frame?brian n
Nov 25, 2002 9:18 AM
the only links i have found about these frames are as follows:

http://www.businesscycles.com/trfram.htm#keirin

check those pictures. tasty.

also:
http://www.bikecult.com/works/sales/nagaCAT1.html
fool around on this one, one of the workers at bike works has a nagasawa track frame and there are pictures of it in the photo gallery.

from what i understand, these frames are THE frame to have if you are a Japanese Keirin racer. Professional keirin is extremely regulated in the parts/bikes you can use (strict control so that no rider gains an unfair advantage, they are betting on it you know). Thus, the frames used are pretty standard fare lugged steel. Nagasawa is one of the best makers. If I were you though, I would save a few hundred on the import cost and get a fully custom Spectrum track frame. Atleast the same quality in a lugged steel frame, and fully custom to whatever geometry/ride characteristics you want.

I've seen a bunch of spectrums here at the TTown track, and only one Nagasawa in person (hanging on the wall at Business Cycles in Miami when I went down for Collegiate track nats this sept). the frames were similar in build quality, and I would kill for either!!!!

-Brian
I wish!Tig
Nov 25, 2002 1:21 PM
I think some may have confused Nagasawa with Nakagawa. Nagasawa makes some of the most sought after track frames in the world.
http://www.businesscycles.com/nagasawa.htm
can you find the dog in that picture? nmBruno S
Nov 25, 2002 4:21 PM
re: Anyone have experience with Nagasawa frame?hayaku
Nov 26, 2002 5:02 AM
http://www.infoseek.livedoor.com/~aftergroove/010224/bk010224_ng.html

ngsw-arc@siren.ocn.ne.jp

I couldn't find a website but here are some nice pictures and an email address. I've seen a few around but I don't know anything about the bikes unfortunately.
M.