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Which of these trips would you pick???(12 posts)

Which of these trips would you pick???WCC
Nov 23, 2002 1:18 PM
this:http://www.sportingtours.co.uk/letour/pyrenees3.html

or this: http://www.sportingtours.co.uk/letour/alps1.html
I chose les AlpesElefantino
Nov 23, 2002 2:22 PM
Not with Sporting Tours, but with a smaller company. We also leave from Paris but finish in Avignon, after climbing Mont Ventoux on the rest day.

But the Pyrenees, plus the finish in Paris, is also a great trip. No losing with either one!

FWIW,
Mike
Mind telling me....WCC
Nov 23, 2002 2:46 PM
which group you are using?? Is there a website?

I havent booked yet, got to do something this weekend. I'm trying to use FF miles for the trip and all but 1 leg of the trip are available. Hopefully, 2 seats will free up.
Re: Mind telling me....Elefantino
Nov 23, 2002 2:58 PM
It's a group out of Florida called Custom Getaways. They're taking only 20-25 of us on the Alps leg, and because some are non-cyclists it means we'll only have a group of about 18-20 who are actually riding. I preferred the smaller group. We are being dropped off in Avignon after the Ventoux ride and are taking the TGV back to Paris.

I booked my FF mile ticket a couple of weeks ago, business class both ways.

FWIW,
Mike
Re: HmmmWCC
Nov 23, 2002 4:03 PM
looks nice. All of the foreign tour groups are so much cheaper..makes me wonder.
Re: Hey Elafantino...WCC
Nov 23, 2002 5:39 PM
...would you like some RBR company on the trip? J/k. My wife has been informed of this new option (assuming there is space) and is very interested.

So you are taking the TGV back to PAris...when is your flight home?
Re: Hey Elafantino...Elefantino
Nov 23, 2002 10:00 PM
There are already two of us RBRers on the Alps trip. More the merrier. Talk to Chris at Custom because as of earlier this week there was only a couple of spaces left.

I'm overnighting at the Sheraton in the lobby of CDG airport. Then I've got an 11:30a flight to Atlanta.
Re: Hey Elafantino...WCC
Nov 24, 2002 9:21 AM
Did Custom set up the train and room at the Sheraton for you? Was that included in the price?
Re: Hey Elafantino...Elefantino
Nov 24, 2002 12:34 PM
Nope. Did those on my own. The Sheraton is expensive ($240/night) but I don't mind paying it because it's above the train station and in the main concourse of the airport, so I don't have to take a taxi or shuttle bus to one of the nearby hotels. Just a short walk. After the Ventoux and a long train ride, I'll be tired enough.

Chris said he would set up things for me if I wanted, though. I just went ahead and did it anway.

FWIW,
Mike
re: What I like....teoteoteo
Nov 23, 2002 5:59 PM
Just to be upfront I work for a company named Veloechappe as a guide. 2003 will be my fourth straight Tour.

For my buck the Alps is more beautiful than the Pyrenees but with the Pyrenees you could hang out for a few extra days in Paris and catch the finish.

You asked about costs...the foreign companies can be cheaper for many reasons. The vacation could be priced to be affordable for the Brits. Sporting Tours does huge volume...more than any other company. The American companies are turning people away because they simply can't meet demand...it's hard to get your price in that kind of market.

Also look at the staff to guest ratio.

I work for a luxury company so it's 5 guests per 1 guide. We have pro wrenches, full sag, carry your luggage, Clif bars, box your bike and unbox,4 star hotels, meals are at very nice restaurants.

Baxter caters to more affordable tours so don't look for the same amenities but you can still have a good time.
Two points: One, you'll want to climb Alpe d'Huez. . .Look381i
Nov 24, 2002 11:38 AM
It's an unforgettable experience. Two, Annecy and its lake are really beautiful. You can do some interesting rides from there.

Then take your time getting to Paris, spend a few days on your own and catch the end of the TdF on the Champs d'Elysees.

Or do both ends of the tour.
Oh yeah...WCC
Nov 24, 2002 3:27 PM
Yes, definitely leaning to the Alps trip with Graham Baxter. I do want to do ADH, and it also does Ventoux. I really liked the tour that Elefantino showed me, (and still may do it) but the other one is so much less ($3000 less for 2 people). I realize the accomodations wont be as good, but we'll get by.

As for seeing the finish, I really wanted to be there, but thats not going to be possible. I actually wanted to do the Bikestyle tour, but was counting on a 10 day trip, which they arent doing this year. I cant be gone that long. I think we will spend an extra day or two in Paris because the tour does end on a Friday. Im just hoping for some luck on the FF tickets....