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A very fine line between vest and jacket(11 posts)

A very fine line between vest and jacketUncleMoe
Nov 22, 2002 2:54 PM
Do any of you live in a climate where it just seems a little too cold for a vest, but too warm for a jacket? I keep switching on my commuting days. I tried my vest earlier this week, I was cold. I tried my jacket today, I was a tad warm.

Me thinks I'm going to stick with the vest because I'd rather be a little cold to start and warm up than be comfy to start but get too warm.

Anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a fleece vest with light zip on sleeves that are small enough to unzip and stuff in a jersey pocket! That would be ideal for commuting in SoCal.

Anyone else have this problem and what do you go with?
re: A very fine line between vest and jacketFez
Nov 22, 2002 3:40 PM
Plenty of wind jackets out there with zip out sleeves. Don't know of any with a fleece body, however.

One solution is smart layering and a good knowledge of the temperature and what you are comfortable with. With an outside temp indicator and access to a good weather report, dressing for the cold is pretty much cake. Remember to adjust for lack of sun or heavy winds.
re: A very fine line between vest and jacketHBPat
Nov 22, 2002 4:21 PM
Why not try to get a pair of arm warmers. If you get too hot you can slide them down or tuck them in your pocket. All without touching a zipper
re: can some explain the importance of a vest?KSC
Nov 22, 2002 4:39 PM
While we're on the subject, can someone explain to me why vests exist? That is, why not just wear a heavy or lighter jacket? The whole vest thing is counteractive to my intuition which tells me that the extremities get cold first and since we're talking about comfort, not survival, you'd want that protection on the limbs. There's lots of options to achieve temperature comfort, why a jacket with no arms? There must be a good reason!
Compromise... less protection vs. freedom of movement (nm)5ive
Nov 22, 2002 5:55 PM
Compromise... less protection vs. freedom of movement (nm)Chainstay
Nov 22, 2002 6:06 PM
Maybe what you need is something fairly warm but highly breathable. Try a wool sweater or a medium weight polypropylene long sleeve jersey. Some riders like a light fleece. You will stay dry from the wicking action so you won't get cold. The wind will keep you from overheating. Windproof clothing is great when it's the right insulation level but breathable wicking action is comfortable over a wider temperature range.
Nov 22, 2002 6:59 PM
Keeps the core warm. With all the wind that your core receives, it sure gets cold. Another thing is if I layered with full shirts, I would find my arms would start to feel bulky and restricted - that's why a vest can come in handy.

And I find my arms don't get cold too easy. The hands and fingers do, so wear a good pair of gloves.
I'll explain..DanoK
Nov 22, 2002 10:54 PM
You are correct that extremities get cold first...because our bodies give first priority to the organs in our torso and head for a warm supply of blood. When there is only so much to go around, our extremities suffer first. The more you expose your torso and head to cold, the more blood flow they require to stay warm. The idea behind a vest is that by keeping your torso warm, you free up blood supply for your extremities to keep warm.

I wear vests a lot and I think they work great. In fact, I think a jacket with sleeves is often too much and just makes me sweat unnecessarily. My rain jacket is really just a Goretex vest. As long as the temperature isn't too cold, just keeping my torso warm in the rain is enough.

When I was on a tour in the Alps a couple of years ago, some of the other people on the tour couldn't believe that I was staying warm enough on the descents with just a mesh-back vest over my sleeveless jersey. They were putting on full jackets while I just threw the vest on. Worked like a champ.
re: A very fine line between vest and jacketregulajo
Nov 22, 2002 9:11 PM
I found a light windstopper jacket with zip-off sleeves. Seems just right. It is made by Lafuma. Seems like just the right mix. Here is a site with a jacket like it, although I puchased mine locally. Good Luck.
re: A very fine line between vest and jacketBreakfast
Nov 22, 2002 9:27 PM
Dress for the temperature by layering. This is more important than what a vest or jacket is meant to do.

A jacket goes over the layers to keep the chill effect of the wind from getting in. A vest is for when you're dressed warm enough for the weather but might need a little extra for descents after a climb or because it's easy to take on or off.

The best layers I've found are Capilene undershirts. They are available in about three different weights for different temps.

Try packing the vest or jacket in a pocket and riding for twenty minutes even if you at first feel a little cold, you can always stop and add the jacket or vest rather than soaking the jersey with sweat under the jacket by starting out with it on.
Try Pearl Izumipeter1
Nov 24, 2002 3:42 PM
PI makes one. I saw it in the new Colorado Cyclist catolog. Don't know the name tho.