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Shoe Fetish - cleat positioning question...?(7 posts)

Shoe Fetish - cleat positioning question...?UncleMoe
Nov 21, 2002 9:46 AM
I'd like to take a quick poll of sorts. How far fore/aft are your cleats positioned on your shoes? You know how the shoes have two rows of cleat bolt holes? Do you use the forward holes or the ones further back, and are they positioned mainly towards the forward part of the slide area or the back?

Here is what prompts the question. I bought a set of toe warmers for my shoes. Both the Calientoes and the Hind Toe Jammers have holes for the cleats to go through. I bought the size recommended for my shoe size and guess what. On both pairs, my cleats are not positioned correctly to go thru. They are too far back so a portion of the toe warmers covers my cleats, so I ended up returning them.

Then I thought, hey - I also tend to get some toe numbness after an hour or so of riding. But the way my cleats are positioned, it also seems comfortable and when I use the back row of bolt holes. If I use the front it seems like too much of my toe area is on the pedal, but maybe I just need to get use to it...?

Thoughts...? Where do you have your cleats positioned? Pictures are welcome if its easier than describing.
all the way back to prevent hot foot.dzrider
Nov 21, 2002 10:40 AM
I complained about my feet on the first day of the BMB Quad Century ride and Lon Haldeman (former RAAM winner) suggested I move my cleats farther back. He redrills his shoes to place them behind the ball of his foot and claims it puts the pressure on a less sensitive part of the foot. I slid mine back as far as they would go and no more hot foot.
How did that effect your spin?UncleMoe
Nov 21, 2002 10:53 AM
Did it feel awkward but you got use to it? Or did you barely notice?
Like many things, at first I think "This feels weird."dzrider
Nov 21, 2002 11:59 AM
After 10 minutes or so I'm just riding. I was prepared to slide the seat forward to compensate and if necessary, lower the bars a bit, but never did. Just rode and the feet felt better the last 3 days than they did the first day.
all the way back to prevent hot foot.Rob Sal
Nov 21, 2002 11:04 AM
As far as I know the idea is that you position your cleats in such a way that the ball of your foot is directly over the pedal axle. Pushing the cleat too far forward will hurt your toes and too far back will effect your calfs.

On top of that I move the cleat towards the big toe side of the shoe to avoid banging my ankle on the crank.

I then angle the cleat on my standing leg so that it reduces the angle at which my red Look cleat disengages.
cleat positionBigLeadOutGuy
Nov 21, 2002 11:48 AM
I think the standard set up is to position the cleat so that the pedal is directly in the middle of your foot and around 1or2 cms behind the ball of your foot. You want the force from your pedal stroke to be placed right in the middle of the pedal thus maximizing your power. Its kind of like when you play pool and you hit the cue ball....if you hit it off center the ball is going to go to either side and not straight foward...thus wasting foward motion...same thing with your cleats. I think that lateral positioning is more important to that theory than the fore and aft. I usually set my cleat kinda far behind the ball of my foot(3cm behind) cause its comfotable and it doesnt effect your spin much at all...if anything i felt like it smoothed my spin.
hope this helps
Thanks for the advice!UncleMoe
Nov 21, 2002 12:24 PM
I was thinking I needed to move it forward, but it sounds like I need to move it further back. I'll give it a try.