|Saddle Rail ?||TUT2222|
Nov 19, 2002 11:50 AM
|Is the difference between steel and ti rails enough to justify almost double the saddle price? I ask because the one I am considering is around 80 with steel and 160 in ti. I am not that weight conscious to worry about the difference in them, but is ti that much more absorbant to feel the difference? Thanks.|
|re: Saddle Rail ?||No_sprint|
Nov 19, 2002 12:17 PM
|It all depends on your level of weight weenieism.
Do I get ultralight bars, wheels, tires, tubes, DA and Rec 10 setups, carbon posts, carbon cranks, SLR Evolutions to throw a Tiagra or 105 level cassette on because it's 1/3 the cost of maybe a DA? Not me. However, I did recently get the 1/2 Ti Record cassette instead of the full Ti. That was where I had to draw a temporary line.
|Oh, come on -- go carbon fiber! (nm)||mja|
Nov 19, 2002 12:31 PM
Nov 19, 2002 1:41 PM
|Double the price? No way. There is justification for that kind of price increase. You won't feel any difference in ride anyway. It's all about weight.
Titanium rails are not expensive. You can get a Selle Italia Flite, a great saddle, with titanium rails, for $50-60. That's what I ride. The Gel version is about $80 with titanium rails. These are easily in the top 5 most popular saddles sold today.
|Can you say "rip off?"||Kerry|
Nov 19, 2002 4:57 PM
|There's no way there's an $80 upcharge for Ti rails alone. If there are no other improvements in the saddle, this is simply charging what the market will bear. As noted in another post, a Flite Ti can be had for around $60, so you have to ask just what miracle occurs when buying a $160 saddle.|
|Can you say "rip off?"||TUT2222|
Nov 19, 2002 5:44 PM
|Well, the saddles are the Brooks B-17 Champion Special, so I don't know what the differences, besides the ti, are.|
|Can you say "rip off?"||Lactate Junkie|
Nov 21, 2002 8:47 AM
|Putting Ti rails on a heavy leather and steel framed saddle is like giving a turd a bath. It may be so expensive because the whole saddle frame, not just the rails, is Ti. I am not sure of this.|
|not so much about weight||DaveG|
Nov 19, 2002 5:00 PM
|solid Ti rails and hollow manganese rails weigh about the same (solid steel has a noticable weight penalty). The claimed advantage of Ti rails is the flexing and hence greater shock absorbtion and comfort. My experience is that there is some comfort advantage with Ti. Whether that is real or imagined cannot be determined.|| |