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Hey stem police, check this out!(11 posts)

Hey stem police, check this out!Bonked
Nov 18, 2002 4:16 PM
http://www.grahamwatson.com/dublin/kelly/image7.html
http://www.grahamwatson.com/dublin/kelly/image11.html

Kind of puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
That guy will never win a race!Tig
Nov 18, 2002 5:18 PM
Sean Kelly was a different animal when it comes to bike fit. However, that much stem showing wasn't uncommon either. The advantage of quill stems is in their adjustability... something many of us are starting to miss with the threadless trend.
StemsPaulCL
Nov 19, 2002 7:23 AM
His stem looks OK to me.

Just a question of curiousity from a threaded stem user: If I order a new bike today, could I even buy it with a threaded stem????
But of course!Kristin
Nov 19, 2002 7:34 AM
I bought one last year and it has a threaded stem. Then again, IT is an entry level lugged DeBernardi Alle, so it makes sense that the fork is threaded, in keeping with that old fashioned classic Italian look.

Is your question about whether or not threaded forks are made for bikes anymore, or whether or not they are available for higher end bikes? Technically, couldn't you install a threaded fork in any bike? It would just requires a new headset/stem/fork correct?
that's not too muchrufus
Nov 18, 2002 5:29 PM
that's just a fine looking example of a quill stem. cleaner lines and looks that the threadless ones.
I agree, that's not too muchAllez Rouge
Nov 19, 2002 5:26 AM
My bike has AT LEAST that much stem showing (although the head tube extension above the top tube, and the stack height of the headset, is a bit less than on Kelly's ride).
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess thatdjg
Nov 19, 2002 5:48 AM
he was kidding.
Uh, bingo.Bonked
Nov 19, 2002 7:20 AM
I was trying to say that people should ride with their stem where they need it to be comfortable on the bike and not necessarily where most people would have it. If Kelly was using threadless, he would have a couple centimeters of spacers but, so what? He could still kick any one on this board's ass on the bike.

I also found it interesting that the drop from his saddle to his stem is only about an inch, again in the region that many posters here would find "offensive."
Not that it matters, but for the record ...Allez Rouge
Nov 19, 2002 7:54 AM
... I did get your point: set the stem height where it NEEDS to be, not where fashion SAYS it should be. As noted, my bike's stem is at least as high as Kelly's, and it's there because that is what works for me -- and the stem police be damned.

I predict that in a few more years, we will see many of the major manufacturers espousing the same fit "rules" that are now coming out of the Rivendell/Heron/etc camps. It may be that this will be because fashion has swung that way, and the majors will either have to get on board or lose part of their market share. But at least it will all be because the underlying principles make sense for a high percentage of the cycling public.
Historically...brider
Nov 19, 2002 8:35 AM
the European riders tended to have their handlebars higher relative to their American counterparts. Also, Kelly tended to have a low seat position (as illustrated by his knee bend at BDC). Didn't seem to hold him back any.
Historically...James OCLV
Nov 19, 2002 11:14 AM
I just recently went from a 3" drop to a 2", and it made a huge difference in comfort. Unfortunately, when my LBS built my bike, they cut the steerer tube. I was forced to flip my 80deg. stem. It looks funny (all of the writing is upside down), but it's what I have to do to make it work!