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Fall ride pics- Paris ouest , new team kit + cyclocross(28 posts)

Fall ride pics- Paris ouest , new team kit + cyclocrossphilippec
Nov 17, 2002 3:37 PM
Now that the racing is over and the cyclocross is just gearing up, I've been taking it easy on my road rides. I've been carrying around a micro disposable camera and taking the time to stop and take some pics along my training routes -- for what they're worth, here they are...

Starting point: Place Royale in Saint Germain en Laye - I love this round point - good round "baby head" cobbles that will knock your teeth out of kilter!

Riding through Etang la Ville up this short but steep rise - you see houses covered in this "vigne vierge", it's green all year but veers to an incandescent red come the first fall chills.

Up at the top of the hill out of Etang le Ville, you cut right onto this small forest road -- w/ any luck in the early a.m., you'll see some boar trying to find a hiding spot for the day.

More "vigne vierge" in Chavenay.

Approaching Crespieres from the south about 25 k. into the loop.

After Crespieres, I take this small road where you come across this small manor house -- it sort of reminds me of Moulinsart in Tintin

Past the Manor house, you approach Herbeville...

Houses in Herbeville...

Herbeville's church...

Herbeville's one room school/Town Hall

and one of the switchbacks on the climb out of town...

And, after a quick 65 km, back home in front of St. Germain castle.

Another ride. Yes, after putzing around in UFOLEP races, I decided this year to come back to FFC racing and join a proper team -- so here are some pic's from last week's ride where a team-mate and I broke in the new team kit.

My mate Ceal in front of Thoiry Castle

"Yeah, yeah, yeah, I won't sprint -- just take the picture..."



I love this stretch of road near between Beynes and Maule...

Heading back...

Back home enjoying the crisp fall sun at a cafe terrace in front of the castle

Yes, I'm laughing now, but I am going to be hurting come the early spring races!!

And, finally, some pictures I took earlier this fall one morning after overhauling the cyclocross rig in preparation for the season. Taken in and around the St. Germain Terrace and forest.

Beautiful countryside...GreenFan
Nov 17, 2002 4:19 PM
My own 100k loop isn't anywhere near as picturesque as that, although it does have it's own little slices of heaven here and there, and a short stretch of cobbles is entirely optional. Thanks for the pic post...
re: Fall ride pics- Paris ouest , new team kit + cyclocrosspina
Nov 17, 2002 5:28 PM
thanks so much for the photos, Seattle, USA
Beautiful Pics!!! How is the Weather now?Ride-Fly
Nov 17, 2002 5:36 PM
I wish I could live and ride in Paris or the Tuscan countryside!!! Lucky you!! I was in Paris 2 summers ago and I loved it there. The weather looks fantastic. Is it about mid 60s F (18 or 19 C)?? Thanks for the pics.
Beautiful Pics!!! How is the Weather now?philippec
Nov 18, 2002 12:58 AM
The weather is more like 5-13 degrees, at least early in the morning when I am out. Don't be fooled by the pictures... I didn't bring along the camera when it was raining -- and it rains a lot!

Nov 17, 2002 7:22 PM
Aha! So "Marlinspike" is "Moulinsart" en Francais? That's good to know. Looks like a beautiful ride...
Molensloot (nm)Stampertje
Nov 18, 2002 2:20 AM
It does look like Marlinspike!KenS
Nov 18, 2002 2:22 PM
another TinTin fan here
NIICE pics - thanks for posting. I'm certainly jealous! (nm)jtferraro
Nov 17, 2002 8:24 PM
major bummer philipecc !!! .... now what am i gonna doSpirito
Nov 17, 2002 11:04 PM
im reading/looking at all this just past midnight and its just not fair ....

i am screaming for ricard, cordon rouge, foie gras, gigondas, tripe lyonnais, duck confit, boudin, tarte au poivre, poire william and a full pack of gauloise sans filtre. all drunk, eaten and smoked at leisure enjoying your marvelous images.

but all i have in my kitchen is some rice crackers, peanut butter and 2 negra modello's aaaaaaaargggggggghhhhhhhhh ... the pain, the pain

anyway ... i thank you dearly for taking me away for a moment where life is to be lived and enjoyed. you truly captured the essence of to my mind the most beautiful part of the world (perhaps some chicks next time).

Merci beaucoup mon frere

oops, some pictures were cut... here they arephilippec
Nov 17, 2002 11:15 PM
The Terrace

The trees

and the forest...
Ohhhhhh nice, can we come visit? nmMB1
Nov 18, 2002 6:31 AM
Ahhh, these are wonderful as well! -nmTig
Nov 18, 2002 8:36 AM
Beautiful work, Philippemickey-mac
Nov 17, 2002 11:22 PM
And if you're the same Philippe who translated some cycling articles from French to English on the VN web site last year, I hope you stick around to do the same here in the upcoming race season. Even if you're not the same Philippe, I hope you stay to post more ride shots. Thanks.
yep, that was me (nm)philippec
Nov 18, 2002 12:55 AM
Nov 18, 2002 1:00 AM
Thoiry? You mean the Thoiry close to Paris? This feels really weird, since Im from Finland and last summer I went to Paris to see the final stage of le Tour and to attend a wedding in Thoiry. It was just outside of Paris (half an hour by train). Im not sure, but the Thoiry castle looks kinda familiar.
Nov 18, 2002 1:52 AM
Yes, that is the castle in Thoiry, just west of Paris. It is also a private animal park -- great fun for the kids!

Nov 18, 2002 2:38 AM
Oh, nice. I´m sure that must be the castle me and my girlfriend checked out when we stayed there. It was very beautiful. We stayed in a small hotel 1 km from the castle.

I envy you, nice country-side to ride...:)

No suburban sprawl . . .ms
Nov 18, 2002 8:16 AM
I always am amazed (in a good way) at the lack of suburban sprawl around major European cities. When I looked at your pictures last night, I pulled out my Michelin map -- your route is very close to Paris. I cannot imagine similar countryside's being that close to the center of a major US city (e.g., New York, LA, Chicago, Houston). What is (are) the reason(s) for the difference? Governmental land use controls? A tranportation structure that favors concentrated towns rather than auto-based suburban development? Individual market preferenced for towns over suburbs?

BTW: My ten-year old daughter, who did not have any exposure to the French language, became addicted to Tintin during our trip to France this past summer. We had to arrange our morning schedule so that she could watch Tintin on television. I will have to show her your photo of "Moulinsart."

I thoroughly enjoyed your pics. Thanks for the show.
No suburban sprawl . . .philippec
Nov 18, 2002 8:54 AM
I received a graduate degree in land use planning here so let me answer your question -- all of the above! You've hit on the big reasons (land use rules such as only allowing new development next to existing development, heavy investment in an efficient and extensive regional public transport network serving not only the urban core but trips between peripheral areas, a definate penchant for landscape preservation and public backing of agricultural support measures).
There are lot's of other factors at play too -- suffice to say that these types of landscapes don't come about by accident and/or inaction. It requires a good percentage of the local population to take an active interest in their current surroundings and to work collectively to build a future that they want rather than subject themselves to a future they might otherwise get.
(step off soapbox)


PS got the reservation papers and will be sending yours your way.
Thanks for the ride report and getting on your soapbox! (nm)velocity
Nov 18, 2002 12:23 PM
Not a bad soapbox . . .ms
Nov 18, 2002 1:29 PM
Given that I live in the suburbs, I probably should not criticize suburban development. But, concentrated building and open space planning makes a great deal more sense than the haphazard planting of suburban tract houses and McMansions. Your pictures show what can be achieved with good planning and public support.

(PS: I will send the reservation papers back as soon as I receive them -- again, thanks for your help.)
Excellentes photos !PeterRider
Nov 18, 2002 1:27 PM
... mais on dirait que certaines sont floues ? Peut-etre que c'est ton algorithme de reechantillonnage qui n'est pas tres bon... j'utilise convert sous linux avec de bons resultats.

Tu as bien mis en valeur les couleurs d'automne ! Si tu viens en Californie, tu seras surpris, vu la quantite de pins et autres coniferes, tres peu d'arbres deviennent rouge.

Great pics !look271
Nov 18, 2002 2:17 PM
That your Gitane? Nice. I'm infatuated with them. My 1st real road bike was a Gitane, back in the mid 70's. Pardon my ignorance of French geography, but are you anywhere near Lyon? I have in-laws that live there.
Great pics !philippec
Nov 18, 2002 2:35 PM
That's my Gitane Cyclocross. I picked it up for a song from a production run destined for La Francaise des Jeux back when they rode Gitanes. Lyon is a great place but not anywhere near me -- I'm just slightly west of Paris.

Great pics !look271
Nov 18, 2002 3:55 PM
Hopefully I'll be visiting them this summer with my family. He rides as does his father and some friends. Hope to see the French countryside via bike. I can't bring my bike but his brother is my size so I'll make do with his bike, whatever it is (a Decathalon, I suspect.) Can't wait!
Thanks for the ride report. What about the trees?KenS
Nov 18, 2002 2:43 PM
What a beautiful ride; color me envious.

On the OLN broadcast of Le Tour in the US, Phil and Paul spoke about the attempt to have the trees, which line the roads, cut down to reduce the number of car accident fatalities. What is the status of this movement?

In the US, every attempt is made to make roadways safe for high-speed driving. The result is that bicycle-riding is a very dangerous activity on many roads.
Tree alignements in Francephilippec
Nov 19, 2002 1:10 AM
The authorities responible for road infrastructure in France are organised into départementale (roughly equiv. to states)units. Road safety policy is made at the national level, but these DDE (direction départementale de l'équipement)have some freedom in interpreting the national policy and developing their own policies in the absence of national directives. The issue of tree lined roads, as it pertains to road safety, falls into the latter category and DDE's have considerable leeway in developing their approach to the issue. In the southwest of France (really, in one or two départements) there is an active and vocal motorcycle safety lobby. They have pushed for the elimination of the tree alignements citing the danger they pose to motorcyclists (without putting into question the valid need to address road user safety when planting and/or replacing these alignements, I find it funny that the motorcyclists never put into question their and other road users' often erratic and illegally fast riding!). They not only lobby for this, but have also organised several night-time "guerilla" attacks where they cut half-way through the trees. Of course, the next morning the only recourse for the DDE is to finish the job and take the trees down. This usually results in an uproar and the DDE replants new trees, albeit further removed from the road. In most other places in France, the local DDE just plants trees further away from the road when they renew the alignements.