|a q regarding WSD bikes||mealex|
Nov 16, 2002 8:07 AM
My wife put me to work, to do some research on WSD bikes, and I was wondering if anyone has opinions on any of the available models. Mostly i've been looking at the Lemond, Trek, and Cannondale products.
Her riding is of the touring/training variety, and she places comfort quite high on her list of wants.
cheating on my homework,
|re: a q regarding WSD bikes||teoteoteo|
Nov 16, 2002 8:54 AM
|For full diclosure I sell Trek, Lemond, and Specialized all of which have options for your wife.
The WSD models very greatly. Depending on what models you want you could get some pretty cool features.
The Specialized Dolce and Vita models will be a nice option as they offer corrected geometries like taller front ends for more comfort, smaller diameter tubing that is butted and manipulated for smaller riders. As for components they offer WSD bars that are narrower, gel tape, and most of all SHORT REACH STI levers, Shorter cranks and stems. Also be happy that she'll get an newly redesigned womans saddle carbon post and Carbon fork.
All models are designed around 700c wheels so tires and wheel compatibility are a plus. Also bigger wheels just tend to handle better (think more centifugal (sp?) force keeping bike upright).
They also offer a stem that can be flipped as well as a proprietary shim that allows for 2 different stem angles in addition to the 2 you get from flipping the stem. A little gimmicky, but cool.
In the past I have not been a huge Specialized road fan but these models are very nice options. Mainly based on 3 things smaller STI levers on both models, so much attention to specific geometry (tubing, manipulation, etc), and the 700 wheels.
The Treks are nice too with narrower bars, corrected geometries, WSD saddles, Shorter cranks and stems etc. The tubing is butted and size specific though I don't think they alter tubing diameter like Specialized..I could be wrong. Also you only get Ultegra Short reach levers in the 2200 model and up.
3 Smaller sized Trek frames use 650 wheels, and 2 bigger sizes 700c
Lemonds are another Trek offering with different frame materials. Offer similar WSD seats, corrected geometries, smaller bars,Shorter cranks and stems. They offer 2 models with a big price jump between.
Shop away and see what you think. Also consider that Specialized has a new comfort class of less racy bikes that re great for people that want road bike features without discomfort. They are called Sequoia's and are pretty cool. Basically a shortened top tube road frame with carbon fork, Suspension seat post, sweeping back style drop bars complete with cross style cheater brake levers on the "tops" as well as STI.
The frame also has flattened hourglass stays for added compliance. We can't keep them in stock almost. Lot's of female customers on them.
What a rant...I hope it helps
|re: I mean...||teoteoteo|
Nov 16, 2002 8:57 AM
|I don't sell them...the shop I work in does.|
|wow.....thanks very much||mealex|
Nov 16, 2002 8:59 AM
|re: a q regarding WSD bikes||snapdragen|
Nov 17, 2002 8:34 AM
|I'm an assistant instructor in my bike club's riding academy. One of our students showed up yesterday with a new Sequoia. We spotted those "cheater" brakes, and everyone went "oooh". Thought they were kinda cool. Since I currently have a mountain style bar, shifters and brakes on my road bike, I like 'em. Would help be get through the learning curve of drop bars and sti shifter/brakes.
Oh, and Margaret loves her new Sequoia.
|re: a q regarding WSD bikes||skywalker|
Nov 18, 2002 8:01 PM
|Several of Bianchi road bikes also come in WSD variety, but only in 46 cm size. If you wife can ride a 46 cm frame, Bianchi Donna (Italian for WSD) bikes have very nice shallow drops. And Campy components fit into small hands better.
Lemond WSD bikes come in only three sizes (46, 49, 53?), and by Murphy's law one is more likely than not to land between sizes... As another reply noted, Lemond's only two WSD models (Tourmalet and Zurich) are worlds apart both in terms of components and price, so again it is easy to fall between chairs. Not to mention that Lemond's long top tube, which although it got shorted a bit in WSD, is still a pain in the neck for normally proportioned (ie short-torsoed) women.
Trek WSD are pretty nice in terms of fit. But again, size selection is somewhat limited. The biggest frame is 54 cm and it actually feels on the small side (more like a 52 cm). Trek 2_000 series is aluminum, so the comfort level is a bit lower, but Trek 2200 and 2300 come with carbon forks, so the difference is not that great. Another good thing about Trek WSD is that 2000, 2200, and 2300 cover the entire component/price range, from Tiagra to Ultegra.
I did not try any C'dale bikes, but from the catalog it looked like they had only two or three WSD models, again pretty widely spaced in terms of components and price.
I just spent four months trying to find a bike that fits. At first I was very excited about WSD, but I managed to fall between sizes/prices in most cases. Trek 2200 was exception, but I was not crazy about aluminum. In the end I went with a non-WSD steel bike because it fit better--so don't get hung up on labels. Have fun shopping: try it all on!