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Why are my pedals so tight?(11 posts)

Why are my pedals so tight?Kunfoochi
Nov 11, 2002 7:08 PM
With the arrival of my new bike, I want to remove my speedplays from my old bike and get them on the new. Problem is, they are so tight, that even if I stick an allan wrench in it, hold the brakes, and step on it, the only thing that happens is the flex of the wrench.

I had these pedals installed by my LBS, because I couldn't get them in, it was like the threads weren't matching up. WHen I brought it the guy did it in 2 minutes.

So I have two problems...I need to get off my old pedals, and then I'm going to need to get them on my new bike, which isn't going to be easy. I tried putting the new set of pedals that were included with the bike on, but the same thing happened, the threads didn't really match up.

I could just bring it to the bike shop again, but I'd like to save my money, and know what the trick is for the future of taking off and getting on pedals. I tried both an allan wrench in the back of the pedal, as well as a crescent wrench on the front, no luck. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

re: Why are my pedals so tight?Fez
Nov 11, 2002 7:32 PM
I know you're young and want to save money, but spend smartly on some basic things. A Zinn Bike Maintenance manual and some good tools are a must have.

The answer to your pedal question is buy a good Park Pedal wrench. Allen wrenches on the outside of the crank are a No-No. The pedal wrench is used on the inside of the cranks. And also, remember the left pedal is reverse threaded. Doh!
re: Why are my pedals so tight?Kunfoochi
Nov 11, 2002 7:55 PM
you've gotta be kidding me? The left pedal is reversed, huh? I was just down there, and I got the right pedal on so easily, and then I sat there for half an hour wondering why the left wasn't going on. I was getting to the point where I wasn't even paying attention to what I was doing, and it started to go on, so I just continued what I was doing....I think that was definetely one of my problems..Thanks!
re: Why are my pedals so tight?Kunfoochi
Nov 11, 2002 8:10 PM
Well, after hearing that I took a shot at putting the right pedals on the right bike(Speedplay X/2's on my old bike, X/3's on my new), but it seems that I'll be riding around with one X/2 and on X/3, as the Right X/3 is not coming off....and honestly, I can't even see how I'm expected to tighten the X/2's....they don't have a flat surface for me to get a wrench on. When a 12" crescent wrench and all of your weight isn't enough leverage to remove a pedal, there's got to be a problem, right!?
re: Why are my pedals so tight?here to there
Nov 11, 2002 8:18 PM
Sheesh, no flat part?
That is annoying.
re: Why are my pedals so tight?here to there
Nov 11, 2002 8:15 PM
Don't use an allen wrench, use a regular old cresent wrench on the outside of the crank. Could be that you are subconciously chicken about going far enough to get your pedals off. Grit your teeth and push it.
I've put on and removed lots of pedals this way. Before you put the new pedals on, GREASE the threads. This will make it easier to remove them later. If they were properly greased in the first place, you wouldn't have this problem.
Not sure what to say about your thread match up problem. Just take it slow and line the threads up by hand.
Nov 12, 2002 6:11 AM
There are a lot of reasons why a pedal might not come out. Your pedal could have started becoming the same piece of metal as the crank, etc. But that doesn't matter now, since the only thing you can do is put grease on the threads when you put the pedal on.

As for getting it off, you want a rubber mallet. Use a crescent wrench or whatever you have, and give two solid taps. It should break free.

I had a pair of pedals that would not come off. It became absurd. 100 foot pounds of torque using a lead pipe on the end of a wrench... it turned over an allen head while it was engaged and the pedal still didn't come off. Two taps of a hammer, though, and it was off easily. In addition to that, using the mallet puts a heck of a lot less stress on the crank than putting on tons of even torque. If you ever want to see a crank flex, do the lead pipe idea (or don't, because it turns out it's not very smart). Tapping the end of a conventional wrench with a rubber mallet will not damage anything.

There is also nothing wrong with using the allen on the inside of the crank. Some pedals don't even work with pedal wrenches, and you have to use an allen anyway.

Use quality grease on the threads when you put in your new ones.
Helpful Reminder:Spunout
Nov 12, 2002 6:42 AM
When removing pedals, turn the (either) crank horizontal towards the front wheel. Put the pedal wrench on so that you are pushing down at the bottom bracket.
dealt with this last weekFrith
Nov 12, 2002 6:54 AM
My pedals were on pretty tight. In the past my cheap pedal wrench has been all i've needed, but this time it just wasn't enough... not enough gripping area and not long enough for proper torque. I took it to my LBS who had a proper wrench and they were tough but off in a couple of minutes.
a)Invest in a new pedal wrench with a good long handle with plenty of gripping surface.
b)Remember the reverse threaded left.
c)Grease 'em before they go back on.
re: Why are my pedals so tight?No_sprint
Nov 12, 2002 10:50 AM
I've had to call a friend over and double team some pedals before. A cheap stand will not handle this sometimes. Bike on ground, one guy holding it. Talk about flexing a bike/crank...
re: Why are my pedals so tight?Kunfoochi
Nov 12, 2002 1:24 PM
Alright, I solved the problem, and by myself! The bike was on the ground, I got out the hammer drill, and...just kidding..I had it on the ground, put a crescent wrench on the pedal, and hit it with a hamer, holding the pedal down with my foot, until it came off.

Then when I put the pedals on the bikes, I put on some heavy duty lithium grease on the threads, which will hopefully make this an easier process next time.

Thanks, everything helped!!