|Strong frame or Steelman frame?||JohnIV|
Nov 6, 2002 6:17 AM
|I've decided that steel is real, and have narrowed it down to 2 frame builders, Strong and Steelman. Both frames would be Tig welded. Steelman'stage race is 853 steel, and runs about $1350 frame/fork. The Strong frame uses Foco/ultra foco shaped/swagged tubes, and runs about $1200 for a full custom frame. From what I've found, both are top notch builders. My question is, besides the material, is there any identifiable difference between the two builders/bikes? I must admit that I'm a sucker for the shaped Foco tubes of the Strong. Any experiences with either builder, or both Strong and Steelman are appreciated. Thanks.|
|Can't say on Steelman but can say on Strong||terry b|
Nov 6, 2002 6:36 AM
|Had a bike built this year by Carl. Excellent workmanship, beautiful welds, nice powder coating. Mine is Foco/UF. He's a great guy to work with, my next one will be another Strong.|
|re: Strong frame or Steelman frame?||Picshooter|
Nov 6, 2002 6:41 AM
|I was frame shopping this time last year. I went with a Strong, full FOCO and couldn't be happier. You mentioned shaped tubes.The frame size, your weight and what you want out of it for stiffness and ride will help determine tubing. That said Carl Strong recommended an all round FOCO tubeset for my frame.He thought shaped tubes would be to harsh a ride for the size (51)and my weight. It is a very nice ride. Great welding, cool powdercoat finish. The fit is spot on. Carl was great to work with, delivered what he promised on time.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask. That said, call Carl. He is a super guy to talk to, and will give you the real answers to any of your questions on fit, tubing etc.
|re: Strong frame or Steelman frame?||Jambo|
Nov 6, 2002 6:47 AM
|You probably can't go wrong with either. I haven't seen too many Strong frames in my area, but I see them a lot on this board. I do know a lot of guys that ride Steelman, and they love their bikes. One of them sold his 5 bikes including a C-40 after he got a Steelman, because it was the only bike he liked to ride.|
|purely subjective reasons||tarwheel|
Nov 6, 2002 7:27 AM
|I like the Steelman because I think they are some of the nicest looking frames around. Take a look at the photos on his website -- I haven't seen nicer colors and finishes. Personally, I don't like the look of Strong frames -- particular the decals. (I have similar complaints about IF frames -- ugliest decals in the business. ) Purely superficial reasons, but the looks of a frame are important to me. However, your preferences could be very different and you might actually like the Strong better. If looks aren't important, the Strong frame is probably a slightly better value for the money.|
|Steelman for me||Frank121|
Nov 6, 2002 2:05 PM
|I wanted a Steelman for several years, but never managed to buy one. I found one on this forum last year in like new condition with less than 100 miles on it at a great price ($475 w/new Ultegra headset and bottom bracket). The wait was well worth it! The welds are absolutely flawless, and the powdercoated metallic blue paint looks like wet paint...very nice. The Steelman builds up very nicely and easily as the alignment and frame construction details are spot on accurate. The Steelman is a perfect all-around road bike...stable on descents, quick on sprints, smooth on long straights, and not a liability on hills. Brent Steelman seems to have put the same quality and design that he puts into his SR 853 top end frame and fork into the SR 525, but at a lower price. I have bought and sold lots of bikes in the past year but have kept the Steelman as it is just too nice a ride to give up.|
|re: Strong frame or Steelman frame?||Mike Prince|
Nov 6, 2002 2:32 PM
|Can't speak to the Strong, but will say I am very happy with my Steelman. Rides great and the paint is tough. Great quality of construction and the best customer service I've had in years of buying cycling stuff. I would not hesitate to but another.
By the way, my Stage Race 853 is as light or lighter than several of my riding buds' similarly equipped aluminum or carbon bikes. Some of it is in the wheels I am sure, but my frame/fork (and stem) are all steel. Frame is plenty stiff in 60cm for my 200+ pounds.
|can;t go wrong with Steelman||j-son|
Nov 7, 2002 3:59 PM
|I ride a Manzanita (mtn) and my wife has a SR. Both bikes are superlative. I can't imagine a better ride at any price. Brent Steelman and co. are great to deal with. Our two substantial purchases from Steelman were the best cycling transactions I've made, despite the fact he's located in No. Cal. and we live in the midwest.
Steelman has a special right now on all of his in stock frames. You can get a pretty good deal if he has your size in stock.
I'm currently scheming as to how I can replace my aged Serotta road bike with an SR without irritating my wife too much!
Good luck. If you have any specific questions, email me.