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Park Tools...WTF?(12 posts)

Park Tools...WTF?tronracer
Nov 4, 2002 6:43 AM
Don't they sell a set in 12,13,14,15,16,17 or something like it? Don't you need 2 of the same size cone wrenches to use them for their purpose? Why not sell them in sets of 2 each? And why in the bundled packages are there always 5 tools you'll never use?
you are kidding, right?trekkie1
Nov 4, 2002 7:07 AM
Show me two people who need or want the exact same set of tools. Bikes do have different sized nuts on them, you know. Just buy what you want.
What I'm saying is....tronracer
Nov 4, 2002 7:13 AM
They couple the "kits" with uncommon sized tools. And you need two same size cone wrenches to fix a hub, so why not sell them in sets of two?
What I'm saying is....bugleboy
Nov 4, 2002 7:28 AM
I think that I will go to Sears and Craftsman and make the same suggestion. You expect that park will know what you need? What if a person needs that "uncommon sized" tool and they don't supply it? Then we have to sit here are read about it from them.
not necessarytrekkie1
Nov 4, 2002 7:29 AM
You may not need two exactly alike:

URLtrekkie1
Nov 4, 2002 7:30 AM
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/howfix_hub.shtml
Here's why they do this.....MrCrud
Nov 4, 2002 10:22 PM
The first reason they do this is because cone wrenches arent made to tighten lock nuts. Hubs are supposed to be adjusted on a vise with the proper open-end wrench.

That's why they are so thin. Using them to tighten stuff will wear the cone wrenches a lot faster.

You only need one of each size to be able to fix any hub, which is why they build their kits this way.

Cheers!

Mr.Crud
He has a point53T
Nov 4, 2002 7:38 AM
but a different one. You only need one cone wrench at time, use a real open end wrench to hold locknuts, axle nuts, etc. The cone wrench is just for the cone.

If you only have one type of hub, buy just two wrenches (one size for front, one for rear) it's cheaper than a set.

I do, however, have a Park chain whip, that comes with a hex wrench on the other end that fits the cassette locknut tool. Of course, the whip and the removal tool are used at the same time, so the hex wrench on the end of the whip handle does not get used. This is a silly situation.
Big Picturegrzy
Nov 4, 2002 8:59 AM
Park kinda makes the assumption that if you're going to work on bikes and spend money on a decent set of tools then you're not going to cheap out and go ala carte. When you buy a set of wrenches from Sears, SnapOn, Mac, Proto or just about anyone else you get the *whole* set. It's cheaper this way and it's a complete solution. Now it is true that you can walk into any Sears and buy just one wrench or a single socket, but this is mostly for the dolt that loses one - you wouldn't set a shop up this way.

And no, when you adjust cones you need wrenches of different sizes. If you work on enough bikes you'll eventually use just about every size. If you want to buy just one or two wrenches then go to Performance. BTW - their set is made by Park, but you have to buy the whole shootin' match.
Big Picturedivve
Nov 5, 2002 12:28 AM
I've found that the quality of most of their stuff isn't all that impressive. Personally, I always try to select tools from traditional tool manufactures first and only look for Parktools for speciality stuff.
Truegrzy
Nov 5, 2002 12:28 PM
I just get their specialty items. Found that the cable cutters from Pedros are a much better deal and work a heck of a lot better.
Cable cuttersAllez Rouge
Nov 5, 2002 12:38 PM
I have been told, more than once, that Performance's house brand cable cutters work MUCH better than Park's. Cheaper, too.

OTOH, the Park website says that their cutters have recently been redesigned so they'll work better.