|Bike lust setting in... Merckx SC or Pinarello Opera?||rwbadley|
Oct 30, 2002 10:43 PM
|I have been thinking of a possible new bike situation, and have been rather keen on the Merckx sc and the Pinarello Opera. I have not had a chance to ride either, as they are uncommon here.
Any comments on these two? I am 160 lbs, like hills, and distance. I want to be comfy and go fast. Some local club racing and Saturday rides. Stability and agility in equal measure.
Do you think either would be a good choice, and it just boils down to style? Or does one hold an advantage...?
|re: Bike lust setting in... Merckx SC or Pinarello Opera?||yummy|
Oct 31, 2002 4:14 AM
|Go with the Merckx. Make sure you size it properly..I normally ride a 54cm and in Merckx standards, I need a 52cm. The bike handles, accelerates and corners like a dream. Even sitting in my kitchen, the bike inspires me to want to ride.
|re: Bike lust setting in... Merckx SC or Pinarello Opera?||Maverick|
Oct 31, 2002 5:14 AM
|similar case as yours, i was eyeing the Merckx or the Opera. both are equally light, merckx at 2.5 pounds without fork. the opera is made of light weight steel tubing, Team is from Easton scandium
my humble opinions:
i previously rode a Italian steel before switching to Trek carbon. i love to climb. test rode a TCR once. the tcr climbs like a mountain goat, however i would like to warn you not to expect the Team SC to share similar characteristic with the TCR in climbs as you'll be quite dissapointed.
the Team is relatively stiff for climbs, but if you love hammering out of saddle, i sincerely think that's not the right frame for you.
the Team has a very compliant ride, very similar to my previous Italian steel. its fast on the flats. you can sprint with the frame, but be a little careful as the rear can be a little twichy at times.
|I like the Opera||Ambishawn|
Oct 31, 2002 5:46 AM
|The new Operas have an intergated Head Set like the prince. I might have bought an Opera if it wernt for the old 1in head tube limiting fork options. The Merkz frames are far from comfrortable with those big fat forks and aluminum. The Merkz would be a good crit bike though.|
|In difence for Opera||rengaracchi|
Oct 31, 2002 6:12 AM
|I've nver ridden Merckx, but I own Opera. So may be I'm not a good person to say this, but I strongly recommend Opera. If you do aggressive ride all the time, then it is not a bike for you, but I think
(Hills + Distance) x Comfort = Opera
For 2003, Opera gets 1-1/8" head tube, and this makes it more stable on long down hill. The frame is light and stiff but gives just enough road information back to you. It makes you ride more even after a century. It may not be as fast as other frames, but the difference is negligible. Besides, the bike is beautiful to look at.
Oct 31, 2002 6:20 AM
|I have one and I think it's a great bike. Light, quick, comfortable. It rides like a magic carpet, and wins hands down based on style alone.|
Oct 31, 2002 7:55 AM
|I saw the show on OLN TV where Bob Roll graded equipment and one of the bikes was a Merckx SC.
He called the paintjob something like: Belgian Deliciousness
God, I was rolling on the floor laughing....
|Hehheh, sounds like some kind of chocolate...nm||rwbadley|
Oct 31, 2002 8:40 AM
|Vote for the OPERA||tmguy|
Oct 31, 2002 8:53 AM
|OPERA! Aboutr 6 months ago I was having the same dilema. I wanted either the Merckx or the Opera. Decided that steel was real I test rode the Opera and that was that. In fairness, I did not ride the Merckx, but coming from a Nemo steel Marinoni, I do like the steel feel. (I also have a CAAD 3, so I am faimilar with aluminum.
I have an '02, it is awesome. May be more durable than the Merckx. I have not had any problems with the 1 inch steerer tube on the descents. The 1 1/8 probably adds something aesthetically since all the tubes are oversized and shaped except for the steerer. The welding is clean and the paint is gorgeous. I went with the NICE paint job black and silver with Record 10 and Neutrons for an all black theme for my 40th birthday. Every ride puts asmile on my face and zero buyer's remorse
Great deals on the '02 from GVH (where I bought mine.)
I can post a pic if you like.
tmguy aka OperaLover
|Pic of OPERA (nm)||tmguy|
Oct 31, 2002 10:06 AM
|Thanks for the info, they are indeed gorgeous bikes...||rwbadley|
Oct 31, 2002 12:36 PM
|I have some concern on both of these for the longevity of the frame. When al and steel (or ti) get pulled too thin, they alwsays have such a delicate feel to them. I am not rough on the equipment, but I'm no angel either. I'll have to see if I can find one to test ride..
|Just an evil afterthought....||WrigleyRoadie|
Oct 31, 2002 1:43 PM
|Picture this with Campy Record and some stealthy wheels. Mmmmmmm|
|King Eddy says...||AFred|
Nov 1, 2002 7:14 AM
|Plant yer keester on the Team SC. I own 'em all-- ti, carbon, alu, steel--and the Team SC is the smoothest and fastest thing beneath this clydesdale. Be careful with sizing. Also, this is not a bike for toddlin' around town or centuries. It's meant to do one thing, get you there fast, and in Belgian style. Good luck.|
|King Eddy says...||PaMTBRider|
Nov 1, 2002 5:49 PM
|If it is the smoothest (ie comfortable?) and fastest why not for a century. The Team SC has a slightly lower than average bottom bracket and more relaxed angles.
I picked up my 03 Team SC last week and only have about 150 miles on it so far but I love the ride and plan many long rides on it. Just for reference I also currently have a Trek 5200 and had a Trek aluminum before that.