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Ciocc Owners- help me buy a new frame(5 posts)

Ciocc Owners- help me buy a new framehulksmash
Oct 30, 2002 8:48 AM
Hi there,

I'm hoping that all you Ciocc owners (or riders, or even those who've test ridden one) could tell me a bit more about these frames. I'm building up a frame this winter and am deciding between the Challenger, or the models a step or two higher, the Slide ( these names aren't US standard - I'm getting the frame through Maestro) or the New Style. The Challenger is SC 6110 and the Slide is 710 with no carbon seatstays, where the New Style seems to be the top of the line with Airplane and carbon seatstays. Any thoughts on any of these frames? Or even the tubing set?

Also the geometry dosen't seem quite "euro" with long top tubes and more aggresive seat tube angles.

Thanks all fo your opinions....
re: Ciocc Owners- help me buy a new frameNo_sprint
Oct 30, 2002 9:09 AM
Well, I've had more than one and still race a Ciocc. I like the Challenger very much. Scandium tubing is awesome and Ciocc uses Dedaccai carbon seatstays. I'm sorry I can't comment on any 710 bike as I haven't ridden one. Unless the geometry has changed, it's quite aggressive. Steep seat tubes and pretty much standard measurements. For example, their 53cm c-t has a 74 seat tube angle and a 53.5 cm TT. I've had other 53s, Italian and American with these exact measurments. In my opinion, put Ciocc right up there with the biggies, without the exotic paint jobs.
re: Ciocc Owners- help me buy a new framehulksmash
Oct 30, 2002 9:29 AM
Yeah, they look like a bargain compared to the bigger names out there, they command the high prices stateside (not that that's an indication of quality) and the matte black frame looks plain cool.

I'm getting a 53 as well, I'm 5;7" with a 31.5" inseam, unless I go for one of those fancy zoot sloping models. But we'll see what's in stock...

Thanks!
re: Ciocc Owners- help me buy a new frame (no quality info)pben
Oct 30, 2002 10:15 AM
After you make the purchase, build it up, and ride it; post your experience. While I cannot provide any feedback on your selection options, I can tell you that I've owned/ridden/raced many bikes in my time (Colnago, Bianchi, titanium Kona (made by Sandvik), Scapin, others as well). Also included in this list was a Ciocc. It actually got stolen about 5 years ago (welcome to Chicago). It BY FAR was and remains my favorite bike. It was the PDM racing frame, which at the time the team road Concordes because of naming issues. At this point no new bikes our on my horizon (two kids under 2), BUT a Ciocc is on my short list when that day comes around again.

If this will be your first Ciocc - you should love it, if not your first, then you already know it.
re: Ciocc Owners- help me buy a new frameCT1 Guy
Oct 30, 2002 11:23 AM
In discussion one day with a long-time Ciocc dealer revealed that Ciocc also prepare / make a lot of the frames for some of the division one Italian teams - bike witnessed there included Bianchi and Cannondale, amongst others. Those team frames just aren't what they seem to say on the label.