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Can't get into big ring on rollers. Why not??(14 posts)

Can't get into big ring on rollers. Why not??PaulCL
Oct 30, 2002 6:12 AM
My first time on the rollers this year was this AM. As last year, I couldn't shift from the small ring to the big ring while up on the rollers. I have no problems off the rollers on the road. Any suggestions??

FYI: Campy Record 10sp on Colnago bititan frame.

P.S. It's tough to get back into the 'swing' of using the rollers. I fell off twice. Kinda embarassing, but the family was asleep at the time. It was just me and Troy Jacobson on the Spinervals tape.
You mean like a mechanical problem with the bike,RhodyRider
Oct 30, 2002 6:26 AM
like it won't shift up, or do you mean you can't find the "oomph" to maintain your spin when changing up to the 53?
re: Can't get into big ring on rollers. Why not??Ligon
Oct 30, 2002 6:32 AM
I have had that same problem before. On the road and in the work stand my bike would shift flawlessly, but I could not for the life of me get the bike into the big ring when I was on the rollers. I had an older 8 speed drivetrain and the rings on the cranks were not ramped and that is what I blamed it on. However I never could get it fixed. I now no longer have that particular bike so it is not a problem. Sorry, I do not have a solution.......

Ligon
a couple of solutionsJohnG
Oct 30, 2002 6:58 AM
1. overspin in the little ring a bit and then do a quick "no load" big ring shift. The trick is to "unload" the chain so it isn't under a lot of tension. That's effectively what's happening when you're one the road.

2. adjust the front der 'outboard stop' ever so slightly. You'll need to be careful with this one as you may end up throwing the chain overboard when on the road. I'd start with 1/8 - 1/4 turn.

3. check the alignment of the front der. You might try rotating it ever so slightly to the "outside"......... that will help with the small --> big ring jump.

good luck and happy rolling

JohnG
just start off in the big ring nmtrekkie1
Oct 30, 2002 7:06 AM
I've had the same problem. I tightened the cable, which helped.bill
Oct 30, 2002 7:36 AM
I reset the outer limit screw, which I don't think helped. I also reexamined the height of the derailer -- Campy says 2 mm over the big ring, mine was set a trifle less (I adjusted this based on another bike which had no problems, although I'm not at all sure that this had anything to do with it). I agree that the biggest issue probably is too much load when on the rollers to shift smoothly, particularly when the chain is on a bigger cog in the rear. When I'm in a smaller cog, the shift from little to big is much smoother.
How is Spinervals on rollers?NPA
Oct 30, 2002 7:40 AM
I just started using rollers and would like to use some form of workout tape. Spinervals seems to be geared toward a trainer, but does it work ok with rollers?
Can't tell you much on your shifting problem, other than make sure you push the lever all the way over. sounds stupid but i've done it- being on the rollers makes me tentative in pushing that lever all the way through, i feel like i'll lose control of the bar. Hope it helps.
How is Spinervals on rollers?PaulCL
Oct 30, 2002 8:17 AM
Spinervals on rollers...a little bit tougher. Of course, rollers are just plain tougher than trainers.

The series is geared toward trainers, as you stated. My only problem (other than falling over occasionally in the beginning) is the standing up problem. After about a half dozen times on the rollers, I get used to standing up on them. To do the tapes, you don't HAVE to stand up. You will get a great interval workout either way. I have the "Suffer-o-rama" "Time Trial" and "Hill workout". Have fun. Paul
Stand up? Rrriiight...NPA
Oct 30, 2002 9:22 AM
Standing on the rollers is not in my near future, i don't think. My rollers are in the garage, and man is that concrete hard! i see what you mean, though,just skip those parts if necessary. Thanks for the reply.
Stand up? Rrriiight...PaulCL
Oct 30, 2002 9:51 AM
Try standing...you can do it. Just lift off the seat a little at first. If you lose your balance, you will slide off the rollers just as if you were sitting. Very little blood involved.

If you're a real roller god, you'll ride no hands! Not me. I accept my mere mortal status.
I was able to ride no hands before managing more thanbill
Oct 30, 2002 11:23 AM
a nanosecond off the saddle. Different strokes, I guess.
Neither are easy for me, now, but I CAN do both (and at lower speeds, too, than before).
If I can do it, you can do it.
Standing puts you in Demi-God status....I'm impressed (nm)Scot_Gore
Oct 30, 2002 12:59 PM
Hurts just as muchmikebikr
Oct 30, 2002 10:26 AM
Typically your cadence is just higher ands that will help smooth out your stroke. The standing part just takes a little more practice. The key is to minimize the effects of your hands. All the pressure and balance comes from your lower half.

Good luck!
Hurts just as muchNPA
Oct 30, 2002 11:54 AM
yeah i was kidding a little. i've been on them about 2 weeks and am actually pretty comfortable now. it didn't take as long as i thought to get going. my biggest problems came from getting on in the first place. LOOK cleats on the concrete floor led to a few slip-and-falls. now have a rubber mat in place and everything is great. You'll know i tried standing up when you see the following post "How to get blood/skin out of concrete?" ;)
Thanks again..