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Who makes the best steel tubeset?(7 posts)

Who makes the best steel tubeset?opencl
Oct 29, 2002 9:17 AM
Columbus, Deda, Reynolds?

Any one have experience with the Columbus foco?
better question might be...gtx
Oct 29, 2002 9:32 AM
What tubeset if best suited to your purposes? Or, who is the best builder?

I like Soulcraft's "a word on tubing"

http://www.soulcraftbikes.com/id45.htm
The whole is greater than the sum of the partsgrzy
Oct 29, 2002 9:47 AM
Bearing this in mind you really do need to look at the big picture.

So given that you may be in the market for the best steel ride you can buy you should consider Serotta.
How about Tange Pretige tubingspookyload
Oct 29, 2002 9:48 AM
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...tough, Richard Sachs uses a blend, like most...Spunout
Oct 29, 2002 9:49 AM
But if you were to tell me it could only be one, Reynolds 853 Pro O/S.

BOTOH, Landshark makes beeeeaautiful frames using Deda Steel and fillet braising.
I can speak for foco..koala
Oct 29, 2002 10:10 AM
Foco rides great- I did not get the mega downtube as I am a spinner, the bike rides great and the unusual chainstays make for plenty of stiffness in my frame size-55 center to center. All the new heat treated tubing-foco,deda uno and reynolds 853 can be drawn to .4mm in the center sections. The result is a great ride and if designed properly, plenty of stiffness for most of us mere mortals.
re: Who makes the best steel tubeset?Heron Todd
Oct 29, 2002 1:35 PM
The best tubing is the whatever a good framebuilder selects to build a frame with the characteristics you want. There is not a lot of difference between different tubing suppliers. There is a huge difference between frame manufacturers.

One thing to consider is if you want one of the new super-steels. These alloys allow the builder to use a thinner-walled tube without sacrificing strength. The result is a strong, lightweight frame. However, these super-steels do NOT offer any difference in stiffness compared to less expensive alloys. So, when you make the walls thinner to save weight, you will also make the frame more flexible. This is fine for lightweight riders who never carry any gear (e.g. most racers). However, heavier riders or those who carry gear may find that the frame flexes too much. This can result in unpredictable handling, high-speed shimmy, and loss of efficiency.

Of course, you can use the super-steel in a thicker-walled tube to overcome this. The strength will be fantastic, but it might be overkill. If you are using 0.9/0.6/0.9 tubing, you may as well use standard cro-mo as it will be more than strong enough and much cheaper than the super-steel.

There are, of course, other factors involved as well. This is what you pay a good framebuilder or manufacturer to figure out for you.

Todd Kuzma
Heron Bicycles
LaSalle, IL 815-223-1776
http://www.heronbicycles.com