|Bianchi vs. C'dale. My 2nd and final bike buying post.||HouseMoney|
Oct 28, 2002 4:24 PM
|As a tag-on to my initial post earlier today ...
Would I be nuts to pay $325 more for the R2000 below? They're both within the budget I initially set for myself, so I'm looking for the better overall bang for the buck. (there's $$ set aside for accessories) The Bianchi was one of the examples in my 1st post; the Cannondale a new entry.
Bianchi Vigorelli, 59 cm, Reynolds 631 main/525 rear, full Ultegra, Bianchi carbon fork w/ cro-mo steerer, no name headset, Mavic Cosmos wheels, triple, approx wt. 22± lbs, $1275.
Cannondale R2000 Si, 58 cm, CAAD5 aluminum, full Ultegra, Time carbon fork w/ aluminum steerer, Campy Record hiddenset, Campy Proton wheels, option of a double or triple, approx wt. 19± lbs, $1600.
Are these prices good enough to nudge me up from the 105 level that I started looking at? Like my first post, these are leftover 2002 models so I'm getting nice year-end discounts on both. I know that with Ultegra on each of these 2 bikes, I'll never have the need to upgrade unless something breaks. I've ridden them both and the fit & geometry is practically identical and the feel on the road is similar. At least on short test-rides, I couldn't really tell much of a difference betw/ steel & aluminum. I'm wondering if on longer rides on at least an intermediate pace, which would my 43 yr old body dread more, the aluminum but lighter R2000 or the steel but heavier Bianchi? Finally, since I'm looking at the total package, how do the Protons compare to the Cosmos?
I know, a lot of questions in such a short time, but I'm getting close to a final decision. Thanks.
|re: Bianchi vs. C'dale. My 2nd and final bike buying post.||PeteWorc|
Oct 28, 2002 6:33 PM
|I am a big 47yr old 205lb guy on a 60cm Caad5 with no compliants whatever. I ridden it on three centuries and numerous almost as long rides and never wished for more forgiveness that a steel frame may offer. Both are nice bikes and you will most likely get what you pay for. Pay alittle more and you get alittle more. But than again I always seem to be wanting for more clothing/accessories....|
|re: Bianchi vs. C'dale. My 2nd and final bike buying post.||castrello|
Oct 29, 2002 1:39 AM
|Well, first of all. How tall are you? Im also shopping around for a cannondale. Im 186 cm tall with a 90 cm inseam trying to choose between a 58 or a 60.
In my book, the Protons are better than the cosmos. Not by much, and honestly I dont know if youd really notice the difference.
If you can afford and still have enough money to take your wife out for dinner sometime, then go for the Cannondale. Its lighter, its cannondale and I would want it...:)
|If the Bianchi has any of that hideous green, go C'dale.||Matno|
Oct 29, 2002 5:24 AM
|Easy choice in my book. I can't believe that Bianchi still uses that color after all these years. It's just plain ugly. Cannondales usually come in much better colors. (My personal favorite is their patriotic scheme, but that's a lower end model than you're looking at...|
|Gotta chime in here and agree wholeheartedly...||RhodyRider|
Oct 29, 2002 6:20 AM
|I think the "celeste" mystique & cache (?!?) is ludicrous. It is just plain fugly, IMHO. To each his or her own vis a vis color preferences, I guess...|
|agreed...i could vomit a prettier colour||Frith|
Oct 29, 2002 7:15 AM
|I love the bianchi geometry though... |
as for the patriotic c'dale, The ridicule would be relentless if I rode one of those. Probably the same as you wearing this on your next club ride...
|Have you seen the Celeste C'Dale???||pben|
Oct 29, 2002 7:26 AM
|yeah on ebay...||Frith|
Oct 29, 2002 7:30 AM
|it was an '86 sr500 or something like that. It was that celeste colour with pink/peach lettering. Absolutely putrid. I bid on it thinking I could paint it up. I figured I had a good chance due to the hideousness of the beast. I couldn't believe I was out-bid.|
|hideous green - it is celeste...||Iwannapodiumgirl|
Oct 29, 2002 1:56 PM
|and it is something called "tradition" - something a USA bicycle company (where the frames are made in Taiwan) would not understand!|
|C'dale, don't even think about it!||Leroy|
Oct 29, 2002 5:34 AM
|Don't believe the party line around here about aluminum=harshness - it's absolutely not true with Cannondale. I ride one and it's a smooth and responsive ride.|
|Since you're 43, you probably||scottfree|
Oct 29, 2002 7:03 AM
|have some sense about you, and aren't all about constant upgrades, latest-and-greatest etc etc. If true, I would recommend the Bianchi, simply because it's steel, and simply because it's a bike for the long haul. Steel is more or less eternal; someone, somewhere, will be riding that bike 30 years down the road. Aluminum has a provisional feel about it. You always sense that someone buying an aluminum bike is looking to ride it two or three years and 'upgrade.'
Plus, no matter what anyone tells you, your 43-year-old body WILL notice the difference between steel and aluminum on longer rides.
Both bikes are nice. You won't make a hideous mistake either way. I just think, in the metaphysical order of things, anyone over 40 should ride steel.
Oct 29, 2002 10:40 AM
|I've got a Cannondale thats over 10 years old and was raced in crits for its whole life, it has been seriously abused and is still straight and crack free (though there are a few dings). Plus with a lifetime guarantee on their road frames you can't really say they aren't "built for the long haul". I bought a newer steel bike this year and thought it would be much smoother but there wasn't that much of a difference, I felt a much bigger change switching from 700x20 to 700x23 tires. Cannondales are made in the USA too while half of Bianchi's bikes are welded up by a 12 year old named Ming with a hook for a hand, a patch on his eye, and whipping marks across his shirtless back.|
|Uh I'm 43...||jromack|
Oct 29, 2002 11:15 AM
|...and I ride a Cannondale. (CAAD 4)
5000 miles this year. Comfort comes from proper fit, proper seat, proper tires, and proper clothing, not just the frame material.
I plan on riding it a lot longer than 2-3 years. My last bike was a Trek, aluminum frame. Road it 10 years.
Oct 29, 2002 12:17 PM
|I'm only 35... I ride a c-dale R2000, 5000+ miles this year. I have found it to be a rock solid bike for sprints, and very comfortable on long rides. It does not have the harsh "clank","clunk","bang" or however you want to discribe it, feel that older aluminum bikes had.
Best of luck..