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R 800 or R 1000?(6 posts)

R 800 or R 1000?castrello
Oct 28, 2002 4:17 AM
So, the question is:

Should I go for the R 800 or R 1000? Here, in Europe, the prices are 1 999 e and 2599 e respectively. Is the better overall package (better frame, wheels, gears) worth it?

I dont race, ride 3-5 times a week and 2-4 times of that is on the road with my road bike. Im planning to keep the bike for a while. I could afford the R800 without problem, while the R1000 is about 500 euros more than I had planned to spend.
R 800 spec

R800 Double Specs

Frame CAAD5 Road

Fork Slice Ultra Si

Rear Shock n/a

Rims Gipiemme Grecal Parade

Hubs Gipiemme Grecal Parade

Spokes Gipiemme Grecal Parade

Tires Continental Ultra 3000, 700 x 23c

Pedals Not Included

Crank Shimano 105 Double, 39/53

Chain Shimano 9-speed

Rear Cogs SRAM R-9, 12-26

Bottom Bracket Shimano 105

Front Derailleur Shimano 105

Rear Derailleur Shimano 105

Shifters Shimano 105

Handlebars Ritchey Comp

Stem Cannondale 3-D forged 31.8

Headset Ritchey Si

Brakeset Cannondale Omega

Brakelevers Shimano 105

Saddle Fi'zi:k Pavé

Seat Post Ritchey Comp
http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/03/cusa/model-3RR8D.html

R 1000 specs

R1000 Double Specs

Frame CAAD7 Optimo

Fork Slice Ultra Si

Rear Shock n/a

Rims Mavic Ksyrium Elite

Hubs Mavic Ksyrium Elite

Spokes Mavic Ksyrium Elite

Tires Continental Grand Prix 3000, 700 x 23c

Pedals Not Included

Crank Shimano Ultegra double, 39/53

Chain Shimano 105

Rear Cogs 9-speed, 12-26

Bottom Bracket Shimano 105

Front Derailleur Shimano 105

Rear Derailleur Shimano Ultegra

Shifters Shimano Ultegra

Handlebars Oversized 6061

Stem Cannondale 3-D forged 31.8

Headset Ritchey Si

Brakeset Cannondale Omega

Brakelevers Shimano Ultegra

Saddle Fi'zi:k Pavé

Seat Post Cannondale Competition
http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/03/ce/model-3RR1D.html
I'd go w/the 1000. (nm)jtferraro
Oct 28, 2002 5:29 AM
"Is the better overall package ...worth it?"MXL02
Oct 28, 2002 7:21 AM
Yes...or in other words, if you have to ask, then you already know the answer. Wanting more bike than you can afford is everyone's problem. The decision to break the budget depends on your ability to live with debt, or how well you can tolerate riding with lesser components. No one can answer that but you. Fwiw, Shimano 105 componentry, would perform admirirably for 95% of the recreational riders out there. Do you need Ultegra? No. Is Ultegra better and more enjoyable to ride? Of course it is! The decision is yours alone to make.
As a compromise....jagiger
Oct 28, 2002 7:07 AM
you might consider the 800, but swap out the 105 for Ultegra & possibly a wheel upgrade (or do this later if $e's are tight).

I have a Caad5 frame which I like alot. One thing about Caad7 that I'm not convinced of is the proprietary crank & bottom bracket setup which you might not need anyway.

Have fun with your new ride!
As a compromise....weiwentg
Oct 28, 2002 7:34 AM
get the CAAD7. normally, one might possibly have cause to be worried about is the integrated crank/BB. the R1000 uses a Shimano Ultegra crank.
As a compromise....castrello
Oct 28, 2002 9:31 AM
Well yeah... The caad 7 (this one at least) has the traditional bb system. 600 euros is not a lot of money if it gets me something I really want. Im a student but next year Ill start working. So I guess I could afford it. Im selling my old bike as well and I might have a scholarship coming up...:) I could get both of these bikes on a 10% discount.

Im not thinking that the caad 5 isnt good enough for me, but the better frame (the caad 7 makes me drool...) and the wheels (the ksyriums are 300 g lighter than the grecal parades) could be worth the extra cash. 105 would be good enough for me. Heck, I could even live with Tiagra. But if you had the chance to get a slightly better frame, better wheels and better components for 600 euros I guess you would take it. Right?

1 euro~1 dollar