|The ultimate city for year-round outdoor training ???||Andy|
Oct 26, 2002 9:10 AM
|As I get older I find that I don't want to venture out in the cold, rain and snow to train. I absolutely hate winters and cold weather. What would be a good city for cycling and training year-round?
I was seriously considering moving back to the Pacific Northwest but I don't know if I can take the rain. Northern California would be OK but I think it will be too expensive to live there.
Are there any places in the Southwest that are fairly warm in the winter that don't look like a desolate wasteland? What about Texas?
|Ocala Florida is pretty temprate||spookyload|
Oct 26, 2002 9:45 AM
|It is also not a horrendously expensive place to live. The roads are smoothe with rolling hills and lots of MTB in the area. Temps get to the 40's at the exteme cold temps in winter during the day with very few days of freezing.|
|How about Hawaii?||phlegm|
Oct 26, 2002 10:32 AM
|Unless you move closer to a tropical climate, you're always going to have to deal with the hot and cold.
I've been to Ocala, and you won't like the mountain biking if you're used to Northern California riding. It's too flat.
I grew up in Phoenix. It doesn't get too cold, but it's freaking hot for too much of the year - although you can always drive into the mountains.
Northern California has plenty of relatively cheap places to live - just not near the bigger cities.
Oct 26, 2002 12:57 PM
|The west coast of any of the Hawaiian islands is your ticket. 85 day, 65 night, year 'round. No rain, sunshine all the time (right on the coast, as you go inland and up in altitude you find rain and it gets cooler as you climb). I like the big island. More roads, great climbs, I forget how many climatic zones (7?,8?). It's about 25% more expensive to live and jobs aren't plentiful but no heating or cooling costs. Even though gas is expensive you can go around the whole island by car in about 8 hours. Most of the big island is not touristy and there are some great small towns. I really like the north and northeast coasts. It's wetter there but hey, it's not bad riding in the rain when it's 80! Check out this thread from September where Flying gives a ride report with great pictures. js5280 "Saturday ride in Hawaii" 9/23/02 9:09am|
|How about Hawaii?||moabbiker|
Oct 27, 2002 2:25 AM
|I grew up on Oahu and I can testify the weather is indeed great. The leeward areas don't get much rain at all, 10-15 inches yearly tops, plus you have access to numerous mountain developments for some great climbing. Only bad point is the island isn't very road cycling friendly, especially in the Honolulu area. The car to road ratio is among the highest in the country. Few bike routes around here. The only decent one, the Pearl Harbor-Nimitz bike route, was essentially rendered useless after 9/11 since a major portion of it was gated off due to security concerns.
Some parts of the island are downright suicidal to attempt to road bike on since there are no bike lanes, no wide shoulders, with speeding cars along the route. Since the island's development is laid out in a linear way, access roads are few and thus heavily traversed by autos. You'll have to hunt down smaller residential areas or ride along a decommissioned military base, like I do, for stress free riding.
Cost of living -- it's expensive in Honolulu but not much more than living in San Francisco, Boston, or other major coastal cities. The neighbor islands on the other hand, are much more expensive since you just don't have the luxury of competitive retail outlets like you do on Oahu.
|re: The ultimate city for year-round outdoor training ???||KEN2|
Oct 26, 2002 12:25 PM
|Try San Antonio. Cost of living and housing very moderate, temps almost never fall below 30 F and seldom remain lower than 50 during the day, rain is sporadic (except recently!) and you can cycle year-round. And we could use a few more cyclists!|
|MOre info please.....||rtyszko|
Oct 26, 2002 3:23 PM
|What type of riding are you looking for? Do you need mountains? What other type of training are you looking for? How big of a town are you looking for?
|OK... here's more info||Andy|
Oct 26, 2002 9:16 PM
|I'm just getting wimpier as I get older. I don't want to ride in 40 degree weather and colder. I prefer smaller towns and temps above 45 F. I froze my @$$ off for almost 15 years running in the midwest winters. I moved out west and the winters don't seem to be quite as cold here but I'm just tired of packing it up in the winter and then starting over in the spring. I know... there are a lot of things to do in the "off season" to stay in shape but it's just plain depressing when you can't get out for a ride because of all the slush and ice and bad drivers.
When I lived in Portland Oregon the temps were OK but I don't know if I can deal with all the rain and still be motivated to cycle. I was thinking San Diego would be a good place until I found out how much housing costs. I almost had a heart attack.
I can only take this for a few more years and then I'm going to have to do something. I need to start planning something now. I work in the computer networking/administration field so there would have to be some type of technology base in the city I choose.
Hawaii is too far away. It would cost a fortune to visit my family and friends.
|Austin TX nm||KEN2|
Oct 27, 2002 5:24 AM
Oct 26, 2002 6:11 PM
|Or in Or and WA try east of the cascades (Bend, Or or Wenatchee, WA). Dry, very dry. They do get snow though. SoCal gets real cold in the winter. We've had a cold spell come through the past few weeks. It's been sooo cold- like about 68 degrees - too cold to ride, brrrrr. Might have more luck out in AZ.|
Oct 27, 2002 8:17 AM
|Usually hovers around 30*C in the summer, and 0*C in the worst part of the winter... both triathlete and rowing national teams are based here, mainly because of the ability to train year round, and apparently we're the "cycling capital of Canada". Very bike friendly place.
Plus, the scenery is mind blowing :).
|San Diego ...||Humma Hah|
Oct 27, 2002 11:20 AM
|I remember one memorably bad winter while I was in San Diego. It was an uncommonly wet, cold, miserable 4-day weekend.
I generally rode Christmas and New Year's holidays in my shorts.