|all the Gods got together ........||Spirito|
Oct 25, 2002 6:15 AM
|.... but one is clearly "too cool" to wear a tie.
its a nice pic anyway - men of guts and strength and singular drive and determination and sacrifice and pain ....
they pedalled many miles just to wear yellow and become victors not only just on french soil but all our hearts and minds.
if you can't name more than 1/2 doz just by sight then you need to do some reading in the cold months ahead. perhaps they're not hero's for all of us but we all know how lonenly some of their miles can be and we carry part of that spirit with us - riding a bicycle is what makes us and them.
A portrait for the ages: 21 of the 22 living Tour champions. Top (L to R): Ferdi Kubler (1950), Charly Gaul (1958), Federico Bahamontes (1959), Jan Ullrich (1997), Lance Armstrong (1999-2002), Eddy Merckx (1969-1972, 1974), Bjarne Riis (1996), Bernard Thévenet of France (1975, 1977), Laurent Fignon (1983, 1984), Greg Lemond (1986, 1989, 1990), Bernard Hinault (1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1985). Bottom (L to R): Lucien Aimar (1966), Felice Gimondi (1965), Roger Walkowiak (1956, standing), Lucien Van Impe (1976, obscured), Stephen Roche (1987), Joop Zoetemelk (1980, obscured), Pedro Delgado (1988), Marco Pantani (1998), Jan Janssen (1968), and Miguel Indurain (1991-1995)
|Did no one really tell him the dress code? nm.||Eager Beagle|
Oct 25, 2002 6:19 AM
|When was this taken? nm||Sintesi|
Oct 25, 2002 6:30 AM
|At the TDF course announcement - 100th Anniversary (nm)||Uprwstsdr|
Oct 25, 2002 7:24 AM
|I didn't recognize Hinault...||TrekFurthur|
Oct 25, 2002 6:41 AM
|in long sleeves and a jacket.|
|They look so. . .so human, when not on the bike! nm||rwbadley|
Oct 25, 2002 6:43 AM
|that's what I was thinking! (nm)||jtferraro|
Oct 25, 2002 8:57 AM
|re: all the Gods got together ........||WrigleyRoadie|
Oct 25, 2002 6:50 AM
|Lance to Eddy "No, I will NOT ride for LottoDomo, ESPECIALLY if you keep touching my ass like that."|
|No tie-who cares? Check out Jan's Dieter/Sprockets outfit. nm||sn69|
Oct 25, 2002 7:14 AM
|If that's Dieter, where's his monkey? nm||rtyszko|
Oct 25, 2002 4:59 PM
|Lance is the type to not care about wearing ties...||eschelon|
Oct 25, 2002 7:27 AM
|In his book, he said that he cared about "looking good" long time ago before cancer...and then he woke up and realized that there were more important things to worry about in life. He's pretty much a no-nonsense kind of cat who treats his life in a low-maintenance kind of way...except his cycling. The no-tie thing doesn't surprise me at all.|
|It's not a matter of looking good, but a matter of||elviento|
Oct 25, 2002 8:43 AM
|common courtesy and basic decency. I know because I wear a tie everyday but it doesn't make me look any better. In fact, very few of the Tour Champions strike me as people who care a lot about their looks.
As much as I admire his willpower and cycling peroformance, I still think he try to be too cool at times. He has had numerous altercations with various pros, and he has little respect for his teammates. V. H. Pena's first day on the team was greeted with "this is my team, and everyone does what I say."
The fact of the matter is, if you win races, then you are a hero. And a hero does everything right.
Oct 25, 2002 8:57 AM
|Wear whatever you want (within reason). Lance looks fine in the pic without a tie.|
|I think he coulda worn a tie too||ColnagoFE|
Oct 25, 2002 10:17 AM
|I mean EVERYONE but him is wearing him so it almost strikes me as an attention grab on his part not to wear one. I think wearing a dress suit without a tie is pretty pointless anyway--you end up looking like a cross between a Hollywood celebrity and a hick who doesn't know how to dress properly...not cool at all. If he wasn't gonna wear a tie then why bother with a proper suit.|
|Ullrich didn't wear one either.||JL|
Oct 25, 2002 11:00 AM
|It's hard to see in this picture and I can't find it now, but I saw another picture where he's not in a tie either.|
|Ullrich's suit is pretty ugly as well.||ColnagoFE|
Oct 25, 2002 12:04 PM
|Looks like he stole it off a member of the Gambino crime family.|
|I found the link. Lance even says why he||JL|
Oct 26, 2002 5:39 AM
|never wears a tie. "I'm a cyclist" in his words.
Click on the little video button near the first picture in the article.
|I bet he had to borrow the sport coat.||Sintesi|
Oct 25, 2002 12:14 PM
|And behind Roger Walkowiak he's standing in shorts and sandals.|
|I agree - it's just poor manners - nm||McAndrus|
Oct 25, 2002 10:22 AM
|you people suck||mr_spin|
Oct 25, 2002 1:21 PM
|Some people will come up with any reason to take a shot at Lance. What is this, tie-gate? As if Lance went out of his way to insult the world and/or make a power grab by not wearing a tie. What sheer idiocy.
Using the logic I've read here, it's entirely possible that everyone took off their ties, but immediately before the picture was taken, put them on. Lance, having given his to his wife so he could sign autographs and take pictures for disabled children, Sep 11 survivors, and Russian amputee brides, could not find his wife to get his tie, her having gone to the bathroom at the wrong time. Rather than make everyone wait, he went tieless. Turns out it was a setup by all the other champions and was purposely done to make Lance look bad. Oh the laughs they must be having today.
How do you people live in world where everything is a calculated insult or assertion of power? Doesn't it get tiring being pissed off all the time? Doesn't it get tiring trying to find the conspiracy behind things?
You people suck. Grow up.
|yeah we all suck, but he coulda worn a tie for god's sake!||ColnagoFE|
Oct 25, 2002 1:44 PM
|I mean how tough is it! If he can't knot one then buy one of those little boy's ties that clips on. Would you show up to visit the President in ripped jeans and a t-shirt? There are just certain standards of dress that people expect and maybe if all of them were wearing business casual he wouldn't stand out like a sore thumb.|
|..why bother with a suit & dress shirt with collar ....||Spirito|
Oct 25, 2002 5:35 PM
|to then leave off the tie?
you either conform or you dont - going half way just looks stupid especially as he's showing. would he wear the full usps kit and then wear chuck taylor's and rubber platform pedals? same thing - he's just being a real Fred.
i am not one to wear a suit either but on rare occasion when one is called for i have slipped on a tie and finished the attire as its intended.
had lance worn a panama hat with a guadelajara, seersucker shorts and sandals i wouldnt have thought any less of him and in fact thought well of him for being natural about wearing something of his style. if you wear something wear it well ...
|It IS his team and everybody DOES do what he says.||AirborneMPpilot|
Oct 25, 2002 8:58 PM
|He's not bullshitting.|
|i like the no tie thing||moschika|
Oct 25, 2002 6:31 PM
|why is the tie such a big deal. it's really only a mutated scarf that should never have been invented. major fashion faux pas if you ask me. which you might not be asking but i'm telling anyway.
rarely trust a person in a tie or people who tuck in polo shirts into their kackies.
|When in Rome...||seyboro|
Oct 26, 2002 3:13 AM
|...you do as the Romans. I was quite surprised at Armstrong's casual treatment of such a historical event. I thought, he might show a little more respect. Judging from the pictures I have seen, he wasn't too comfortable himself. ("Damn!! Shoulda listened to the wife, ALL the other boys are wearing ties...")|
|trivia question (to which I don't know the answer)||steve-z|
Oct 25, 2002 8:05 AM
|If this is 21 of 22, who's missing?|
|Roger Pingeon, winner in '67(nm)||gregario|
Oct 25, 2002 8:12 AM
|Lemond and Hinault||ms|
Oct 25, 2002 8:17 AM
|Given the past animus between Lemond and Hinault, I am surprised that that were able to stand next to each other. Or, have they kissed and made up?|
|How about Fignon standing by Greg||DeRosaOrBust|
Oct 25, 2002 11:17 AM
|Did you notice Fignon is leaning away from Lemond? nm||Dave Hickey|
Oct 25, 2002 1:12 PM
|greg don't look too happy(nt)||rufus|
Oct 27, 2002 2:28 PM
|Anyone else notice...?||gregario|
Oct 25, 2002 8:20 AM
|That Greg Lemond and Bernard Hinault were standing next to each other? I wonder what they had to say to each other...|
|That Marco, not a hair out of place.||PEDDLEFOOT|
Oct 25, 2002 8:23 AM
|Nah, they're all animatronic robots in Euro Disney's Hall of TDF Champions. -nm||Tig|
Oct 25, 2002 8:29 AM
|I like Merckx's Molteni colored jacket! nm.||merckxman|
Oct 25, 2002 8:30 AM
Oct 25, 2002 8:30 AM
|Can't believe these two are stuck together. I can just hear the greating from Lemond, "Hey @sshole", (or whatever that is in French); or did they kiss and make up?|
|re: all the Gods got together ........||divve|
Oct 25, 2002 10:48 AM
|Jan Jansen...I met the guy when I was 10 years old. He had a bike shop in my neighborhood. I was there to get a new inner tube for my bike. While I was waiting some guy delivered a wheel with a blue tires. I told him that it was a stupid color for a tire and that they should be black:) At the time I had no idea who he was and guess what? I now ride a road bike with blue tires:)|
|These guys must die young||Alex-in-Evanston|
Oct 25, 2002 12:29 PM
|I would expect at least a few winners from the 30's or 40's.
|These guys must die young||Fredrico|
Oct 25, 2002 1:39 PM
|And y'know, for a bunch of Tour de France champions, the ones who aren't racing anymore look like they've aged faster than us mortals. Its like, once they hang up their wheels they swear off riding, eat badly, and get sedentary and out of shape. Fallen heros. What kind of inspiration is that?|
Oct 25, 2002 1:15 PM
|"We, the judges of the peloton of the ages have watched you
bicycling and found your skills wanting. Turn your bike in
at the window."
|Looks like only three||Mel Erickson|
Oct 25, 2002 5:32 PM
|of them are a little light in the hair department. The testosterone must be flowing pretty good. I think it's the proof we've been looking for to debunk the bicycle seat/virilty study.|
|Looks like only three||AirborneMPpilot|
Oct 25, 2002 9:06 PM
|I think high testosterone is associated with hair loss, so your conclusion should be opposite.|
|Picky, picky, picky! nm||Mel Erickson|
Oct 25, 2002 9:52 PM
|Why didn't Indurain win six Tours?||DeRanger|
Oct 26, 2002 6:51 AM
|He still looks like he would come back and race again.