Oct 24, 2002 4:31 PM
|I am thinking of getting a tandem and one of the options I am considering is Independent Coasting, as practiced by DaVinci Tandems. Have any of you used this? If so, what are your thoughts, likes/dislikes etc? Has anyone switched from in/synch pedaling to independent? Or vice versa?|
|Not a great idea||Kerry|
Oct 24, 2002 4:53 PM
|Quite a bit of added cost, added weight, and reduced efficiency. Plus, it really addresses a "non-problem". Allowing your stoker to coast is generally viewed as the road to hell, producing an XS of arguments about when to coast and pedal.|
|Not a great idea.....why?||gogene|
Oct 24, 2002 7:41 PM
|The cost and weight are a non-issue for me. Explain why reduced efficiency. Have you had personal experience with the independent coasting, one way or another? I'm not knocking you for your opinions, but due to the amount of money (for any good tandem) I'm really looking for experiences, good or bad, with that system. Where I live I don't have the opportunity to ride all the bikes that I would like, so I have to rely heavily on the experiences of others.|
|Try tandem&hobbs||Spoke Wrench|
Oct 25, 2002 4:48 AM
|I think that it's a pretty tall order to solicit opinions from people who have actually used the independent coasting feature, expecially on a traditional frame tandem, simply because there are so few in service. Honestly, I don't recall ever seeing one and my wife and I have been riding tandems for more than 25 years and have attended several huge tandem gatherings. I'm sure you will get a response on tandem&hobbs, maybe more responses than you want. Sometimes their responses can get a little too strongly opinionated for my taste.
I tend to think that it's a solution in search of a problem, but I've never ridden one. My wife doesn't have a problem telling me when she would like to coast a bit to rearrange her butt and even tells me which foot she would like down. Not being an utter fool, I respond to those requests.
I see two problems. The first has to do with the pedal position on corners. I like to corner with the inside pedal up, and I like to really weight the outside (bottom)pedal on fast corners. With independent coasting, I wouldn't know where the stoker's pedals are. The second is esthetics. I think tandems just look better when both rider's legs are working in unison.
|re: Independent Coasting.......pros/cons?||brurider|
Oct 25, 2002 8:42 AM
|A tandem is on my covet list, and may be for a while yet, so I am just window shopping. But, as I understand it, the coasting feature is just what it says, for coasting. After the coast is done, both riders must get in synch, which I am told is not hard to do. Also, the 2:1 gearing reduction allows for a much wider wheel ratio than one may get from a conventional tandem - thus allowing tall gears for speed and low ones to climb. The gearing still lets you be able to go with 26" wheels which in some instances are benfeficial depending on how and where you ride and how much weight you carry. I was surprised to see four chain rings on the front of a da Vinci at the Seagull Century. Also, regarding weight (unless one's body fat is down next to nothing), does it make any difference if we carry it on our arse or on the bike?|| |