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Any recommendations on a place to restore and re-paint a ...(12 posts)

Any recommendations on a place to restore and re-paint a ...chopper
Oct 23, 2002 10:25 AM
frame? I already know about Cyclart, and while they do nice work they are awfully expensive. I'd just like to know wat else is out there just to compare.

Cheers
Yeah, they're expensive ...Humma Hah
Oct 23, 2002 12:06 PM
I had them powdercoat my old $90 cruiser, and it cost 4x what I paid for the bike new. I wanted the decals restored, and they only do that if they did the primary finish.

Jim Cunningham also will not put a CyclArt decal on the bike unless he gets to do a full restoration. He would not put one on mine because I had him leave a dent in the chainguard (I felt it was part of the bike's history).

But the job was beautiful, and I'm amazed how well it is holding up. That clearcoated powdercoat is virtually bulletproof -- no dings, scratches, or scuffs so far, and I've not been babying it.

I'm sure you can find someone cheaper, especially if you don't need decals. That said, even CyclArt is not all that expensive if you can look back in a few years and realize you're delighted with the look of your favorite bike. I DO recommend powdercoat/clearcoat if the choice of finishes suits you.
Interesting about the Cyclart sticker, the website makes itchopper
Oct 23, 2002 1:18 PM
seem like they put in on everything, that being said, Jim C. seems to be pretty set in his ways. There is one article about a guy who sent in a chrome Frejus track bike and wanted it painted black, Jim tried to get the guy to re-consider and even offered to buy the frame but the guy wouldn't budge, so Jim said no way and sent it back. Funny story. My restoration if it is with them will be around $700.
I recall this about the experience ...Humma Hah
Oct 23, 2002 1:36 PM
My total price, for a 1-color basic powdercoat, several in-stock decals, two custom-made decals that Jim and I worked up together, plus a NOS headset he happened to have which the bike seriously needed was about $390. Before actually placing the order, I really felt strange about laying out that much money on a bike some people would say was not worth a can of DupliColor. The bike looked simply AWFUL prior to the restoration.

But I happen to love the bike, and I REALLY wanted the decals. One of the custom decals was a re-creation of a LBS stickie, shop no longer in business, who'd helped in the MTB-conversion back before we knew that's what it was. The other custom decal was the bike's name, Humma Hah, on the chainguard. The decals were actually cheap, but the only way to get them was go with CyclArt, and they happened to be close by.

Anyway, I got the bike back a few weeks later, just in time to slap it back together and ride the Tour de Palm Springs. And I remember looking down at that beautiful piece of steel art, and being so proud to be on it that the cost was insignificant. I've not regretted it since.

So my advice is this: don't think so much about is the bike worth it now, think more in terms of if the work is going to be worth it to you AFTER it is done. If the bike means something special to you, and you intend to keep it forever, paying the money to a top shop is worth it. If you're slapping some color on a beater, grab a spray can from somewhere. Between those two extremes, I'm not sure it EVER makes sense to paint a bike.
re: We tried a few places in New England none were cheap.dzrider
Oct 23, 2002 12:32 PM
All created confidence in their workmanship, but many cost as much as a good deal on a new frame. The market for budget refinishing may not be very big.
re: Any recommendations on a place to restore and re-paint a ...2_cheap
Oct 23, 2002 12:46 PM
joe bell bicycle painting is regarded as one of the best. Richard Sachs (arguably the best custom framebuilder in the U.S./world) sends his frames there. Airglow painting has a nice website with an impressive portfolio
re: Any recommendations on a place to restore and re-paint a ...mapei boy
Oct 23, 2002 1:29 PM
If your frame isn't a true classic, why don't you try refinishing it yourself? Back in the 1970's, I sanded down the finish on my Italvega SuperSpecial, hung it from a garage door, and carefully spray-painted it with Schwinn Paint. I rubbed it between coats. It came out pretty well. 30 years on, the paint still adheres to the frame. It can still be buffed to a pretty good shine.

As for Cycleart, they restored my wife's Pogliaghi back in the mid-nineties. It cost about 500 bucks. A fine job. Better than the original. And they were able to reproduce the original decals (well, almost). And yes, they put a Cycleart decal down near the bottom bracket.
Some sound feedback here guys and just a little more insightchopper
Oct 23, 2002 2:08 PM
into the project: the bike in question is a 1979 Jack Taylor with some really sweet Nervex lugs. What makes this project a tough one is that it has extensive pinstriping which I got quoted at $190 from Cyclart not including the $90 for the decals. I'm sure that once I get it done I will love it and not regret what I spent but I just felt it would be more responsible to at least get two quotes. Here's a link to a jack Taylor, although its not mine.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/jtaylor_db2.htm

You can see that every tube is pinstriped.
Some sound feedback here guys and just a little more insightBike Fool
Oct 23, 2002 2:26 PM
I got my Bianchi re-done by Simo Cycles in CA. I (and the LBS I shipped it from) thought it was a great job. It ran $300, including labels and topcoat. Here's a link.
http://www.simocycles.com/html/frames1.html
Susan C once told me ...Humma Hah
Oct 23, 2002 3:27 PM
"... I do the pinstriping, and when I get out my brush, its expensive." I had asked her about the price to pinstripe a Schwinn arrowhead pattern on a front fork, rather than using a decal. On her advice, I went with the decal. It turned out OK, but slightly yellowed.

At some point, I gotta learn pinstriping myself. A small pattern like that might be a good beginner's project.
Options...Lone Gunman
Oct 23, 2002 5:55 PM
www.airglowpainting.com

Spectrum Powdercoats dot com is another

Airglow has decals and a computer library to pick from.

I just had my Lemond 853 done locally, Coke can Red powder coat with Dodge Viper Yellow wet paint as accent color on downtube, fork, and part of the top and seat and chainstay tubes. Far better than factory, obtained a set of factory decals from Trek and it looks great!! $315 including the decals and 3 coats of clear.
Spectrum Powder WorksStewK
Oct 25, 2002 7:52 AM
I used Spectrum Powder Works http://www.spectrumpowderworks.com/ for a new frame and they did an excellent job. I thought they were reasonably priced in comparison to others.