|Dressing in cool weather||stuttsdc|
Oct 23, 2002 5:41 AM
|Hey folks. This'll be my first time riding in the fall-to-winter season and I could use some tips on how to dress.
My rides will be in the mornings. I'd say the temp at that time is usually mid 40's F, and works it's way into the mid-50s..or even upper 50s by ride's end.
Layers are the approach, I'm sure, but what exactly?
Do I do a polypro T-shirt, short sleve jersey, and arm warmers (and leg warmers)? or T-shirt and long-sleve jersey (i've a thin long-sleve jersey)?
I own a pearl izumi fleece vest but it's a tad bulky and it wouldn't pack down into my jersey pockets.
I've also a thin headband and polypro stretch gloves.
OK, what if it gets a little cooler than that. I have a breatheable, waterproof cycling jacket. It's not heavy and warm, but more for wind, light water.
Your advice is appreciated.
|Sounds like you are on the right track||ms|
Oct 23, 2002 5:47 AM
|All of the options you discuss sound OK for weather in the 40s and 50s. It really comes down to what you are comfortable with -- you just need to experiment. My usual problem is that I am cold when I start out and but am overdressed by the end. Arm warmers and knee warmers are a good solution for that problem. A windbreaker vest also is a good thing to have for the temperature range you are discussing.|
|I prefer dressing indoors||jw25|
Oct 23, 2002 5:52 AM
|but to each their own, right?
Seriously, though, these are pretty mild conditions (at least compared to mine - central PA, getting colder every day).
Personally, for cooler mornings I do bibs, a coolmax sleeveless base layer, jersey with armwarmers, and some kneewarmers. Full-finger gloves, maybe with liners if it's windy, with a vest stuffed in a pocket. If it could rain, I bring a light jacket instead of the vest, and stuff a cap in their, too, as well as clipping the visor back on my helmet.
It's really pretty subjective, though, so if you're riding easy, err on the warm side. For the first ride or two, I'd stick close to home, so you can redress or abandon if need be.
I'll also warn you - to be comfortable in cooler weather, you'll be cold at first, so be ready for that, and don't be tempted to bundle up.
|Where at in Central Pa?||look271|
Oct 23, 2002 5:46 PM
|I'm from New Cumberland. Do I know you? BTW-There's a slight chance of SNOW tomorrow. Think I'll go out for a ride! =)|
|Don't forget your head.||pmf1|
Oct 23, 2002 5:57 AM
|You can lose a lot of body heat through your head. Buy a couple balaclavas. They're cheap and work really well. The velcro shoe covers sold at Performance work nicely in cool weather. If they get too warm, you can take them off and stick them in your pocket. I find Pearl Izumi Pittards gloves ideal for the 40's and 50's. You might want to get some tights. The vest will work well over a long sleeve jersey. My arms get hot in full jackets and I find "breathable" water proof jackets to be really hot and sweaty.
Experiment around and you'll settle on what works for you.
|I work off of 2 temperatures 35 degrees and below 30.||onespeed|
Oct 23, 2002 6:04 AM
|My PI Gel Lite full fingered get me through temps all the way down to 30-35 degrees.
I put bacla on when it is below 35 degrees. Biemme jacket with a t-shirt under until it is down to 40-45 degrees, then I put on another long sleeved over the short.
A fleece instead of the long sleeved when it gets to colder than 35.
PI Am Fib when it gets under 30 degrees. I switch the Biemme out with a PI Kodiak jacket throughout the season.
Leg warmers down to 35 degrees; colder than that and I pull out the tights.
Fleece socks at 30 degrees.
This is a lot of gear to keep track of and I usually end up replacing something every year.
|I try not to agonize too much.||dzrider|
Oct 23, 2002 6:13 AM
|You will survive being a little too warm or a little too cold. I'll try listing items I add as the temperature drops.
1. Arm warmers
2. Leg warmers
3. Long sleeve shirt replaces arm warmers,full finger gloves
4. Poly pro undershirt and mountain bike shorts
5. Light jacket
6. Balaclava and wind stopper gloves
7. Tights replace shorts & leg warmers
8. Wool Jacket with nylon front and glove liners
9. Heavy weight tights, 2nd balaclava, heavy gloves
|My 45F getup||Alex-in-Evanston|
Oct 23, 2002 6:23 AM
|Bib shorts, thin tights (Pearl microsensor)
Craft windblocker long sleeve undershirt (sweet)
Long sleeve jersey
Pearl microsensor headband
Light, windproof gloves
If it warms up to 50 or 55 during the ride, I just unzip the jersey. It works well enough.
|re: Dressing in cool weather||tarwheel|
Oct 23, 2002 7:22 AM
|With the temperatures you are talking about, 40s, I find it's easier to overdress than not wear enough. If I wear too much, I sweat a lot and then get even colder when I come to a stop or slow down. The most useful cool/cold weather items I have found are: |
-- Wind vest, which shields the torso, where I seem to notice the cold the most.
-- Coolmax or other brand of wicking t-shirt, which keeps me warm down upper 40s even without a vest.
-- Long-fingered gloves. I like Pearl Izumi gel lights down to low 40s.
-- Defeet armskins, so I don't have to buy a bunch of long-sleeve jerseys. Plus you can peel them off if it warms up.
-- Leg warmers. I use Performance cheapo brand and they work fine. Would love to try some Defeet Kneekers but can't find them anyone since their factory burned down.
-- Tights without pad, which I wear over my regular cycling shorts (bibs) on really cold days (below 40).
-- Pearl toe covers, which just slide over the front of your cycling shoes.
-- Skull cap for really cold days (below 40).
-- Wind jacket (Pearl Vagabond). I rarely use this because it make me sweat too much, but it's great on very cold days (35 and lower). What's nice about the PI Vagabond is that the sleeves are removable if it warms up while you are out riding.
-- Wool cycling socks.
|DeFeet factory burned down !?!||KenS|
Oct 23, 2002 10:03 AM
|DeFeet factory burned down !?!||tarwheel|
Oct 24, 2002 5:33 AM
|I don't know any details, but the factory burned last winter or spring. It's in NC, where I live, but I've never been by there. I tried to order some Kneekers from Excelsports, and they told me they weren't available due to a fire that burned down the factory. I assume they have been able to resume production by now.|
|currently doing the 20 degree swing||terry b|
Oct 23, 2002 7:24 AM
|living in the desert, we see a 20 degree or more swing just about every day this time of year. It makes the use of layers essential.
For me, if I'm starting at 50 and expecting a rise to 70 I wear shorts, a short sleeved jersey, arm warmers, half fingered gloves and either a tank or short sleeved light weight polypro undershirt.
In the 40s, I add tights and switch to full fingered gloves and a long sleeved jersey with a medium weight long sleeved poly undershirt.
Below 40, I add toe warmers and switch to a Pearl Izumi Kodiak winter jersey. I might add a windbreaker vest if I'm in the mood and a poly balaclava if its in the low 30s.
Oct 23, 2002 8:57 AM
Wool socks (thin dress socks, two pair)
Full fingered gloves ( military wool gloves work well and breath)
long sleeve jersey
arm and leg warmers
|re: Dressing in cool weather||Fredrico|
Oct 23, 2002 9:05 AM
|70-55 temps. working hard: shorts and long sleeve jersey, fingerless gloves. If not working hard: single layer lycra tights, long sleeve jersey, fingerless gloves.
It's also amazing the insulating effect petroleum jelly or "hot creams" have on bare skin in this temperature range and below.
55-45: Working hard: single layer lycra tights, heat trapping double layer on trunk, single layer on arms, full fingered gloves, thicker street socks or wool socks, a cycling cap under your helmet. Not working hard: thicker layers all over, definitely a windbreak over chest and shoe covers.
45-35: Jacket with windproof-front and heat-trapping, breathable fabric in back, heat-retaining wool or polypro undershirt, full fingered gloves with windbreaker tops or better yet mittens like skiing hand coverings, thicker layered tights, wool socks, shoe covers, thicker hat under helmet with ear covers, Vaseline on face.
Insulating fabrics all over are a bad idea: you need to vent the prodigious amount of heat generated and avoid sweat buildup, which will make your clothing wet and then make you cold.
35-down: stay home unless it's a nice sunny day, then go with 45-35, above. Add another layer, especially on fingers and toes.
Winter riding is bracing! You can work like mad and not even know it, condition your body to handle cold winter weather even when you're not riding, keep the immune system conditioned while others are shutting down and catching the flu.
|re: Dressing in cool weather||UofAracer|
Oct 23, 2002 3:12 PM
|Craft's S3 underwear (http://www.craft-usa.com) work great. It's like a thermal undershirt and wind vest in one. Wear this with a jersey and you're set. Stuff the rain jacket in the jersey pocket and you've covered it all. They cost quite a bit, but it winds up to be about the same as the price of a wind vest and thermal top combined.|
|one more tip||miko|
Oct 23, 2002 5:33 PM
|I find this old racing trick helpful when starting out in cold morning air. Shove a thick newspaper under your jersey. It will serve as an excellent wind block for your torso but still allow your back/arms to vent. If you get hot just throw it away at the nearest trash can or dumpster. You won't have to drag it around with you after it has outserved it's usefullness.|| |