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'03 Klein Frames(12 posts)

'03 Klein FramesAMP
Oct 22, 2002 2:58 PM
Does anyone have any experience with the '03 Klein road bikes? I know that the Q Pro Carbon is a carryover from last year and that the Q Carbon (compact) is new for '03. I'm interested in opinions on the compact. I'm a large rider (6'2", 200lbs) and will be using this frame for racing.

My LBS just started carrying Klein and I have the option of ordering a team bike at a discount. My first inclination was a Q Pro Carbon, but I'm being told that the frame is incompatible with Record (supposed to be a problem with the rear triangle)... can anyone vouch for that?

re: '03 Klein FramesFrankDAfish
Oct 22, 2002 4:59 PM
the notion that a bike cannot accept record because of the rear triangle sounds like a ridiculous notion to me
That's what I was thinking! (nm)jtferraro
Oct 22, 2002 7:18 PM
I think that it's crazy too... but that's what I was told (nm)AMP
Oct 22, 2002 7:31 PM
Makes me wonder about Trek . . .Look381i
Oct 23, 2002 3:37 AM
Three years ago my LBS told me the same thing about the Trek carbon frames. I think the intent was to get me to go with Dura Ace. Instead, I went with Campy and another frame from another shop.

Kinda wonder whether Trek dealers (1) are encouraged by Trek to push Shimano for their various road lines; (2) see more profit from Shimano; (3) are uncomfortable with Campy (perhaps don't have the tools?); or (4)??. Probably just a coincidence of ignorance.
From an employee of a Trek dealerTrekFurthur
Oct 23, 2002 6:20 AM
No, No, Maybe, and Probably. Trek doesn't tell us one way or another what components to put on a bike, we don't see any more profit from one component mfg. than any other, my shop is not uncomfortable with Campy as we do have the tools, and whoever he was working with may have been a complete goombah.

Makes you wonder about the current generation of shop employees--look at it this way, some of the kids in these shops were not breathing when Campy was really the only choice. Also, as Shimano is ubiquitous in the market, and Campy not as much so, on bikes that most shops sell, then it's likely these young-uns just have little-to-none experience.
I had the same thoughts... but...AMP
Oct 23, 2002 6:49 AM
my shop is very comfortable with campy and it's recommended (and used) on most of the high-end stuff. I would consider it to be information from a reliable source. Whether his source was reliable is another question alltogether.
I'm not so sure,TJeanloz
Oct 23, 2002 6:52 AM
I worked at a Trek dealer and bought a 5500 frameset to install Record on for myself. And it was a couple of years ago (2000), but I do recall having a problem with chain/dropout clearance in the smallest cog, which, when I called Trek to tell them about it, they informed me that the OCLV was not compatible with Campy. It was a very minor problem, and easily solved with a file, but a problem nonetheless, and Trek does, in fact, recommend using Dura-Ace exclusively.
Campy-equipped Project One bikes? (nm)TrekFurthur
Oct 23, 2002 10:13 AM
re: '03 Klein Framesthe other Tim
Oct 22, 2002 6:14 PM
Go to and submit the question to tech support. You'll get an answer within a day or two.
Absolutely!Spoke Wrench
Oct 23, 2002 4:20 AM
When in doubt, operate on facts.
Oct 22, 2002 10:32 PM
I asked Mike Jacoubowski, owner of Chain Reaction Bikes ( the Q-Carbon is a slightly heavier frame. frameset is going to be about $1k. presumably it's of the same quality as the old Quantum Race, just with carbon stays. as for which bike would be better for you, I have no idea. I might very well go for the Q-Carbon if I were you.
who told you the rear triangle was incompatible with Record? what about Chorus? this sounds borderline idiotic.