Oct 18, 2002 7:46 PM
|Okay guys, got a set of new Tufo clincher tubualars for my cross bike today. They totally rock! But, FYI, if you plan on getting a set for road or cross, stretch them first. It took me 45 minutes to get one tire on, then I remembered stretching my other Tufo tubulars before I could get them on the rim.
Just wanted to pass along what could be some helpful assistance.
|re: Clincher Tubulars||Akirasho|
Oct 18, 2002 8:19 PM
|... aside from their clincher bead, they're still tubular tires and need to be stretched before mounting... 45 minutes shows dogged determination, jacka$$'d stubborness or patience of Jobe...
Remain In Light.
Be the bike.
Oct 19, 2002 5:52 AM
|So just what is the miracle that causes you to say these tires "totally rock!" Can you actually tell any difference in ride on a cross bike? Or is it just that you are so relieved to be able to ride after a 45 minute struggle, that it seems like nirvana?|
Oct 19, 2002 3:26 PM
|Going from clinchers to tubulars is always a heavenly experince.|
|Can you help me out?||Spoke Wrench|
Oct 19, 2002 8:33 AM
|I'm in the process of trying to form an opinion about clincher tubulars. You sound like you like yours. Would you rank in order the characteristics that you value and how you feel (so far) that your Tufo's perform? In other words, what do you think are their strong points and what (if anything) do you feel you are giving up?
Ability to contain high air pressures.
Ease of mounting.
Ease of puncture repair.
Resistance to pinch flats.
Resistance to punctures.
Ride cushioning characteristics.
Oct 19, 2002 10:33 AM
|FYI, this isn't just one guy that likes TUFOs. ALOT of people run TUFOs in CX.
They are GREAT tires that, short of tubulars, are awesome for cross.
Rubber compound sticks to every surface,
ultra low rolling resistance,
no pinch flats-and you can use the sealant which works great,
control and handling over any surface.
You don't need rim tape.
You can run ultra low psi.
The road tires can go really high on psi just like tubulars.
Downside? They wear fast but so do all "race" tires.
Oct 19, 2002 12:16 PM
|I currently run a set on the road so this may not apply to CX at all.
#1 They're a b!tch to mount as they don't pre-stretch all that well b/c of the rubber bead that allows them to be used on clincher rims.
High pressure: My pump maxes at about 160 and they hold that no prob.
Appearance: In the eye of the beholder but to me the sidewall looks kinda retroish and I like it.
Cornering: I've had no problems but am not the most aggressive rider. They won't roll off your rim, for sure.
Cost: Scored mine on eBay for about $40 for the pair. MSRP is higher.
Cut resistance: So far excellent. Carcass is something over 300tpi so that should be a strength.
Mounting: See #1.
Repair: Problematic. Tires come with a jar of sealant but if that doesn't work I can't see repair options as the rubber bead would keep you from opening the carcass, IMO.
Pinch flats: Not an issue.
Puncture resistance: So far, so good.
Cushioning: I've heard others complain but I'm a heavyweight and I like the ride fine.
Rolling: IMO excellent.
Wearability. Another "so far so good" but I don't have many miles yet <1000.
This is probably the longest post I've ever made.
|Can't be repaired||Alexx|
Oct 20, 2002 5:21 PM
|The one fault with Tufo tires (across the board) is that they can not be repaired. If the sealant doesn't work, the tire is junk. There is no stiching on the underside (even on the true tubulars), and, according to some people, not even a real inner tube, either. Of course, for tubular users, getting rid of the stitching also gets rid of the lumps, so that's not really a bad thing.
I've had great experience with the Tufo sealant-it works, and it holds even at 150 psig. Some people that ride on very hot roads have said that it doesn't work well in those conditions. Others have said that the sealant doesn't work at very cold temperatures, either. I don't know about that, though.
|Can you help me out?||mosovich|
Oct 19, 2002 3:29 PM
|I feel I'm giving up ease to repair for sure. Cost was actually cheaper at speedgoat.com. Cornering characteristics are about the same. Resistance to pinch flats is miraculous. (had major problem with this with clinchers) Ride cushoning better. Weight is about the same.
Can run better tire pressures.
I may get a set for the road for next year, just to see, but so far these are just as good at the regular Tufo Prestiges tubulars that I used last year.