|Time to prove them wrong about impotence and cycling [POLL]||aliensporebomb|
Oct 16, 2002 6:30 AM
|How long have you been cycling?
How many kids do you have?
What are their ages?
(Ideally we could show that if you have a seven year old kid
and you've cycled 10 years regularly it shows you can have
Me? No kids yet. Married though. Got pregnant once but
miscarriage occurred (probably due to food poisoning my
wife got at a work related party), we'll try again though.
|Cycling on (old) 10-speeds or better: 32 years . . .||Look381i|
Oct 16, 2002 6:45 AM
|Two kids, 19 and 16 |
No impotency issues yet (knock on woody)
Bought a Specialized Body Geometry Comp saddle several years ago during (first?) publicized impotency scare. It was the most uncomfortable saddle I have ever tried. It seemed to squish a lot more of the perineum than my long-time favorite, the Flite Ti. I've now got about 1500 miles on an SLR. which is even more comfortable.
Studying the pro peleton, past and present, would make the most sense. Although they are usually lighter, they spend so many hours in the saddle that problems should appear with them first.
|You're confusing impotence with sterility, I believe. nm||scottfree|
Oct 16, 2002 6:47 AM
|In the words of Homer Simpson: D'oh! Yes indeed-Sterility. nm||aliensporebomb|
Oct 16, 2002 7:09 AM
|I was under the impression ... (just a point of clarification)||liebejungen|
Oct 16, 2002 8:22 AM
|That impotence, in its broadest etymological sense, is applicable to both erectile disfunction (ED) and Sterility. I believe that it is only in recent times that it has become synonymous primarily with ED.
So, it wasn't necessarily a "DOH!", even if it caused confusion for some.
|Its a conspiracy between Bicycling Mag and Specialized||pmf1|
Oct 16, 2002 7:33 AM
|I remember when that breaking story came out in Bicycling Magazine. And coincidentally, Specialized (a major advertiser in Bicycling) was the first to come up with a saddle that solved the problem. Almost at the exact time that story came out. Women went to bike shops in droves to buy their husbands and boyfriends proper saddles. Specialized made millions.
I've been riding bikes seriously (5000+ miles per year) for over 15 years now. I recently had a sperm analysis done and it was completely normal in every aspect. My wife and I are trying to have a child. The first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage.
Initially, I did experience some numbness when I first started riding long distances, but that is a rarity anymore. Perhaps its a fit issue. Some people have their saddles tilted rather than flat.
I don't care what anyone says, no way one of those ugly @ss saddles is going on any of my bikes.
|re: Time to prove them wrong about impotence and cycling [POLL]||Eager Beagle|
Oct 16, 2002 7:36 AM
|34 old, 29 years of cycling, 1 kid at -3 weeks (predicted) old.|
|can hang 3 wet towels ova' here||Spirito|
Oct 16, 2002 7:39 AM
|18 years of pedaling around (32 if you count kiddy bikes)
... no kids that im aware of.
pretty sure im not shooting blanks ;-)
|paper towels, hand towels, beach towels...? ;-)||Shad|
Oct 16, 2002 8:45 AM
|Hopefully you don't mean "hang" the Mr. Lifto sideshow freak way!|
|He probably means moist towelettes.... vague but true... :- ) nm||liebejungen|
Oct 16, 2002 11:03 AM
|How long . . . that's a little personal . . . but:||djg|
Oct 16, 2002 7:45 AM
|Cycling for decades (I think I started at age 6 and I've made it to 42).
3 Kids--two are nearly 8 months old and one is 5 years old.
Sterility does not appear to be a problem. Paying for college, on the other hand . . .
And that's the news, from this little annecdotal corner of the world of hard saddles and fecundity.
|re: Time to prove them wrong about impotence and cycling [POLL]||McAndrus|
Oct 16, 2002 8:26 AM
|I've been cycling with 10-speeds or better since the early seventies. My bride and I have two girls, ages 19 and 16. We were both cycling a lot when she got pregnant with the first one.|
Oct 16, 2002 8:31 AM
|cycling for 30 odd years...have 2 kids...both concieved on the 1st or second tries. Got fixed recently so sterility is no longer a concern--it's a benefit. No problems ever with impotence other than those times where I drank a little too much whiskey...|
Oct 16, 2002 8:54 AM
|I believe this poll is flawed.
Do you honestly expect some poor guy who has been riding all of his life to bone up [pun intended] and admit that he is either impotent and sterile?
Oct 16, 2002 9:34 AM
|That would be a "no", then? ;)|
|re: Time to prove them wrong about impotence and cycling [POLL]||Lactate Junkie|
Oct 16, 2002 12:01 PM
|Once again this crap rears its ugly head. This time in the Wall Street Journal no less. Based on the study they quote there is an equal chance the sterility was caused by joining the police force as that it is caused by riding a bike.|
|re: Time to prove them wrong about impotence and cycling [POLL]||PMC|
Oct 16, 2002 1:11 PM
|Cycling - as long as I can remember
children - 1
Age - 13
Sterile - by choice
ED - no problems
|Off the Scale||grzy|
Oct 16, 2002 1:46 PM
|Recent squigley count came back with a shocking 209 Million/cc - normal is 80 to 120 M/cc and motility is great. Doc say's they're fiesty! All this out of a soon to be 41 year old male who's been biking all his life on not the best saddles and thought having his unit going numb was perfectly normal. |
If I lose my job might look into some "sales work" on the side.... Right now Mrs. Grzy's clock is winding down so we have to get busy. ;-b
|One more time: The issue, children, is IMPOTENCE, not STERILITY||bill|
Oct 16, 2002 2:42 PM
|which are remarkably different things.
One can be STERILE and still be a very POTENT major stud (i.e., shooting blanks, but shooting hard and fast nonetheless). And vice versa.
Sterility determines whether you can have children. Impotency determines whether you have children after chateaubriand, cognac, and a little night music or with a refrigerated sample and a turkey baster.
Oct 16, 2002 3:38 PM
|How we going to measure it? I guess this means that Mormons and others with multiple wives are the real studs. Funny, I don't recall too many of them being known for riding bikes. Guess that answers the question. What's 2 or 3 kids when compared to dozens?|
|....and another thought.||grzy|
Oct 16, 2002 3:40 PM
|Then there's all those priests who don't typically ride bikes, but don't have any kids either. Hmmmm, what's a poor guy to think?|
|Actually, Mormons are famous for riding bikes. Every male||bill|
Oct 16, 2002 6:01 PM
|member (uh uh huh, I said "member") of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is required to spend two years proselytizing somewhere else. Typically this is in some wild-eyed Eastern city, like Washington, D.C., where I often enough see them in their starched white shirts, dark ties, and dark slacks, riding their bikes from neighborhood to neighborhood.
As for measuring potency, I really admire the hanging-the-wet-towel test.
|Actually, Mormons are famous for riding bikes. Every male||Ouch|
Oct 17, 2002 10:45 AM
|starched white shirts, dark ties, and dark slacks, riding their bikes from neighborhood to neighborhood
This is the uniform, including bike and name tag, that you will see worldwide. In Taiwan, rode the big heavy single speed clunkers.
They were also famous for saying "hi" to anyone and everyone.
|I think bill's point having kids, regardless of #, is not....||Scot_Gore|
Oct 16, 2002 7:21 PM
|...a measurement of someone being efflicted with impotency. I can think of a half dozen ways to be a parent that a little bit of impotency wouldn't get in the way of. Mr. Armstrong used one of them. I'm a adoptive parent for another. I think ASB needs to find some doctors, a lab and make appointments for all of us if he really wants to answer this one, but, not a bad bit of internet banter.
|28, 16 years of cycling, no kids yet.||elviento|
Oct 16, 2002 3:38 PM
|but seriously, cycling has actually increased my ability. The past 2-3 years have seen me cycling rigorously (200-300 miles a week), and racing occassionally. And it's only in the past 2 years women have called me a "stud".
bike setup and riding position are key to avoiding any problem in that area.
By the way, the Specialized BG saddle is the most overpriced, ugly, cheaply made (chrome coming off, etc.) piece of crap I have ever seen. With the sexual innuendos in their ads, it's borderline fraud.
Oct 16, 2002 6:47 PM
|Isn't that the true measurement? I'll be forty in a month, have been cycling for 19 years, and wake up with it just about every day. To answer the part of the original question that is now in dispute, I have two kids: they're five and two. Anything else you need to know for the sake of science?|
|re: Time to prove them wrong about impotence and cycling [POLL]||aliensporebomb|
Oct 17, 2002 5:13 AM
|I think the evidence is inconclusive. I figured who better
to prove the truth or falsehood of the things being said but
us, those who ride.
That being said, of the three bikes I have only one has a
body geometry saddle and it's the most uncomfortable thing
I've sat on. I'll get a Selle Italia ANYTHING over that
|there's way far too much info in these post responses!!! nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Oct 17, 2002 6:36 AM