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Cippo and Pantani... Team Merconte Ego... I mean Uno(19 posts)

Cippo and Pantani... Team Merconte Ego... I mean UnoWrigleyRoadie
Oct 13, 2002 12:03 PM
http://www.procycling.com/news_main.asp?newsId=4111

According to Italian journalists Mario Cipollini will be riding for Mercatone Uno-RDZ next year, where he'll have Marco Pantani as a team-mate.
re: .. if I'm not mistaken...Akirasho
Oct 13, 2002 12:18 PM
... that qualifies as one of the seven signs of the apocalypse... possibly two.

We abide.

Remain In Light.

Be the bike.
Italian street buzz...................................Justride
Oct 13, 2002 12:33 PM
My high school aged daughter, spending a year studying in Italy, called me today to tell me that this news is all people on thet streets of her small Italian home town are talking about. She says every other word you hear is either Mario or Marco!
Let the elephant, lion, jungle puns begin [nm]WrigleyRoadie
Oct 13, 2002 1:45 PM
re: Cippo and Pantani... Team Merconte Ego... I mean UnoTREKY
Oct 13, 2002 5:51 PM
Sounds a little like Hoffman and Voight in Midnight Cowboy
Question, whats Cipo's height/weight, size frame?Breakfast
Oct 13, 2002 7:08 PM
Sometimes he looks pretty large compared to other racers.
1.9M and 72 Kg. 6'3" and 167lbs?Spunout
Oct 14, 2002 3:27 AM
http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/3153.3.html

I think his S-works bike is on a compact frame, so who knows what size it is. Probably an 'L' with a three-foot seatpost.
1.9M and 72 Kg. 6'3" and 167lbs?castrello
Oct 14, 2002 8:19 AM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/oct02/worlds/?id=emr/CHbikecipo

Check this out, the bike he used to win the worlds... Funny though, it isn´t a compact. Actually I think he used to ride a compact earlier this year? This looks like something in the region of 58-62 center-top...?
Looks like 56/7 c-c. See those brake levers? What a Fred! ;-)Spunout
Oct 14, 2002 8:55 AM
Actually, nice looking bike. Special paint for the Italian Team, nice touch. And that is nowhere near a compact frame, that is for sure.
Look at the....teoteoteo
Oct 14, 2002 9:14 AM
Stem though...flat with no stack...then the levers up high. It's funny but I have noticed this from the Pro bikes several times. Reminds me of the MTB guys with no stack ans riser bars.
wait, wtf are you guys talking aboutcollinsc
Oct 14, 2002 1:10 PM
as far as i can see it, the angle of the levers meets the angle of your palm, so that the hood mates with your palm at a comfortable angle without odd bending.

his setup looks spot on to me. i dont have the slightest idea why people ride around with their hoods pointed down, must put some wicked strain on your wrists
1.9M and 72 Kg. 6'3" and 167lbs?divve
Oct 14, 2002 9:56 AM
This is what Specialized said about his bike earlier this year in one of the Cycling news letters:

from Specialized
Super Mario's bike is indeed a Specialized S-Works E5 Road. About half of the Acqua & Sapone squad rides stock S-Works frames. The other half of the team receives the same bikes, but built with custom frame geometry.

Cipollini has very exacting preferences about his frame geometry, so we build his bike to his specs. Also, Cipo is relatively tall. As the frame sizes increase, the relative slope of the top tube decreases. These two factors combined (Cipo's geometry preference & large frame size) yield a frame for Cipo that has a noticably less sloped top tube.

I trust that this clarifies the matter. If you have further questions, feel free to drop me a line.

Another thing to note is that Specialized works with A&S riders to test prototypes of future production bikes. Throughout the season, keen observers make catch glimpses of new products that have yet to be delivered to the marketplace.

Sean J. McLaughlin
Global Marketing
Specialized Bicycle Components
Italian Bicisport magazine says:merckxman
Oct 14, 2002 11:06 AM
Seat tube: 58cm
Center of crank to top of seat: 80.7
Top tube: says 58.5 in foto; 58.8 in drawing

If I understand the article correctly the top tube only has a slope of 2 degrees (for his Zolder bike)
Italian Bicisport magazine says:castrello
Oct 15, 2002 1:04 AM
Is that 58 cm c-c or c-t?
Looks center to top of top tubemerckxman
Oct 16, 2002 7:52 AM
Unfortunately the measurements in the foto don't say; the pictorial indicates center to top of top tube.
Hmm, so what's he going to wear now? Plain Rainbow on white? NMSpunout
Oct 14, 2002 11:03 AM
Hmm, so what's he going to wear now? Plain Rainbow on white? NMSpunout
Oct 14, 2002 5:14 PM
They had a bike for Cipo ALREADY painted at the WC...Spunout
Oct 15, 2002 4:26 AM
They had a bike for Cipo ALREADY painted at the WC...castrello
Oct 15, 2002 7:57 AM
So if Cipo wouldnt have won, what would have happened then?