Oct 10, 2002 10:22 AM
|I bought a Cannondale R500 Triple (CAAD4 frame) a few months ago and would now like to:
- upgrade the groupset from the standard Shimano Tiagra to Ultegra (much nicer feel than Tiagra; more effective brakes too??), and
- replace the standard Mavic XPs with Ksyriums (because they look fantastic, and also nicer to ride on!)
Due to the cost of this upgrade, I'm wondering whether it wouldn't perhaps be wiser just to purchase a whole new bike (e.g. CAAD7). This would obviously be more expensive than simply buying the Ultegra groupset and wheels for my existing bike, but at least I also get the newer CAAD7 frame. I enjoy riding whenever I can but don't ride competitively, so weight isn't the be-all-and-end-all for me. My question is: how much of an improvement is the CAAD7 frame over the CAAD4 frame? I've spoken to one or two people in the bike shop, and to me the differences don't sound that radical and seem aimed at shaving off weight. If this is the case, I'd be happy enough just to buy the new groupset and wheels and put them on my CAAD4 frame...but if the CAAD7 frame is a quantum leap over the CAAD4, then I'll go for a new bike altogether. Any input would be much appreciated!
|re: Cannondale Upgrade?||Breakfast|
Oct 10, 2002 10:42 AM
|How much better can it possibly be, they're both aluminum and within a few ounces of each other. The differences are mostly in the heat treating and engineering designed to shave weight off tubes in areas where strength will not be compromised.
Changing groupsets after only a few months means little service was obtained in terms of value out of the original Tiagra. What's really going on is a case of buyer's remorse for not buying up to the level you now consider.
Scrapping the Tiagra is a waste, better to sell the whole bike and get what you want. Upgrading the wheels is a wiser choice because wheels can go on anything else you get later.
My advice is to ride the bike another season with a wheel upgrade. Keep the old wheelset and ride them occasionally, maybe with a cassette that has a different range of gearing.
See how you feel after a year or more. Put the old wheels back on and sell the whole bike if you got the dough and the I wanna's again.
|I'd go for the wheels||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Oct 10, 2002 10:43 AM
|If they have stock Cannondale wheels on them (absolute fricking crap) I'd change those to Ksyriums but it sounds like you have a set of Mavic's which probly aren't bad. However, the Ksyriums are so stiff (in a good way) that you will feel a difference in ride quality. Components are an option to change but I'd just stick with what you have until it wears out.
Another option is to sell the entire bike before it depreciates in price too much (first year a bike will not go down in price much) and purchase a new bike. The CAAD 5 is better than the CAAD 4 for sure... so my guess is the CAAD 7 is an even bigger diff. Its completely up to you and what your finances will allow.
|re: Cannondale Upgrade?||No_sprint|
Oct 10, 2002 12:20 PM
|You can spend a lot less money and get a much better wheel than the Kyseriums very easily. That is, unless you're looking at this years SSC SL. If that's the case, you can spend a lot less money and get an equally good wheel or spend just a hair more and get a pair of 303s.
Upgrading the entire groupset would be pretty expensive. Doing all this, you're looking at spending triple or more of what the bike would likely be worth on Ebay.
I'm not recommending yes or no, just make sure you're happy with your own decision. You're the one who'll have to live with it. Me? No question, entirely new ride.
|Get a CAAD7 , or||Leroy|
Oct 10, 2002 1:10 PM
|Check out GVH Bikes, internet store, and see about his CAAD5 deals. Then sell your first bike and mitigate your damages.
|I agree with the group so far here...||Ahimsa|
Oct 10, 2002 4:15 PM
|Ride the tiagra stuff until it falls apart. If you aren't concerned with weight and don't race it is a perfectly fine group. Replace it as it fails.
Replace the wheels and you'll see a huge difference, ride it that way for a year or two. Then see where you are at.
|Sell it and buy a CAAD5 or 7. (nm)||jtferraro|
Oct 10, 2002 6:03 PM
Oct 15, 2002 12:44 AM
|Thanks for all the helpful advice here guys - much appreciated. I think I'll follow the consensus here and just buy new wheels, and then ride the Tiagra kit until it needs replacing...|| |