|Would you rather ride fast or slow?||hirevR|
Oct 10, 2002 7:58 AM
|I have always been able to ride bikes fast. Anyone could really. To be really fast, though, you need strength, balance, handling skills, disregard for safety, and another dose of the last. This has never been difficult for me. But lately, I thought about the other end of the spectrum. I think I am missing a big part of riding. Enjoying the slow ride. Like guys that can track-stand for 10 minutes, manual a mtn bike, maneuver in TIGHT places and never make a move as to get off the bike. Not only that, but just peddaling, smelling the air, watching leaves fall, riding next to my wife instead of 400m in front (still breaking hard!). Although my interest lay more in the trackstanding and total control of the bike, if given the option of being a good fast rider or a good slow rider: Which would you choose?|
|To do everything you cite, just give up the paceline. (nm)||onespeed|
Oct 10, 2002 7:59 AM
|If it was a black and white choice...||MrCelloBoy|
Oct 10, 2002 8:12 AM
|I'd take slow.|
|Unfortunately I have no choice.I'm gfted at riding slow.||PEDDLEFOOT|
Oct 10, 2002 9:08 AM
|Turn pro then. Let's see how fast you really are ;-) NM||Spunout|
Oct 10, 2002 9:45 AM
|How ya know I'm not ;O) (nm)||hirevR|
Oct 10, 2002 10:11 AM
|how do you know you are as fast as you think?||merckx56|
Oct 10, 2002 10:43 AM
|very few people are actually as fast as they would have themselves (and others) believe. i saw a great t-shirt at a race in austin. eddy gragus was wearing it. it said, "I'm probably faster than you think you are!" he went on to beat the remainder of the pro 1/2 field soundly in the sprint!
being fast where you live isn't necessarily being fast everywhere!
|How ya know I'm not ;O) (nm)||mainframe|
Oct 10, 2002 11:00 AM
|Breaking away from the main group, riding solo at 28 mph for 80km as is seen in pro racing, that's what I would call fast.|
|Cycling Maxim #1||MXL02|
Oct 10, 2002 10:41 AM
|There's always somebody faster.|
|So what's your point...||hirevR|
Oct 10, 2002 11:05 AM
|is this a discussion about my 'fastness' or a thread on choosing to ride fast or slow?
BTW--in response to merckx--You seem to have triggered a query into one of the great fields philosophy--skepticism. And to your question I add: What is fast? And how do you KNOW you know what it is? then again, like these two responses--totally off topic.
|I love when thread drifts from cycling to epistemology :-)||OffTheBack|
Oct 10, 2002 4:33 PM
|re: fast or slow?||Fredrico|
Oct 10, 2002 12:50 PM
|To heck with people who always go out as hard as they can, "to get a good workout," they'll tell you. They tend to be really unfriendly, probably due to lack of oxygen in their brains, not seem to be having a particularly good time, desperately suffering along to get their heartrates up, for what? To cheat a few years out of the grim reaper? To feel powerful, invincible? How pathetic.
I go for the riding experience as Tai-Chi, a unifiying of body and spirit, in an activity that involves the whole body, intense one moment like bridging a hill, easy, relaxed the next moment floating down the other side, sustained on the flats, working the pedals at different cadences and intensities depending on how you feel. Doing track stands at lights, pedaling uphill with hands off the bars peeling a banana, it's all a one-ness with the bike, which is the principle pleasure of moving quietly through the ever changing world of sights, sounds, smells, and other life around you, including those riding their bikes. For this your mind must be open and engaged.
If all you want is "to go fast," why not just stay in an airconditioned room on a variable resistance pedaling machine with a speedometer and heart rate monitor?
|why not both?||bianchi boy|
Oct 10, 2002 6:00 PM
|I think cyclists that always ride flat-out, as fast as they can are really missing something. Although I really enjoy a fast paceline, particularly when I'm feeling good, I also enjoy a nice leisurely ride at a 14-16 mph pace. My brother and I did a weeklong cycle tour in Wisconsin this summer, averaging about 16 mph each day. It was great. We enjoyed the scenery, maintained an easily sustainable pace, and weren't beat up at the end of each day. I also felt like I was in better shape at the end of that week than I have been all year. Slow rides are also good for recovery and supposedly for burning fat -- but that hasn't worked for me.|
|To become fast, learn to ride slow!||cyclequip|
Oct 11, 2002 6:39 AM
|Or, put another way: You can't go fast all the time. TRY TO GO FAST WHEN YOU CAN. BUT WHEN YOU CAN, GO AS FAST AS YOU CAN.
You'll soon find out that to go really fast, you need to go slow a lot. It's only when you're rested that you can really go fast. That's what Merckx and Coppi inferred when they said - just ride your bike lots.
|I prefer to ride slow...||Uncle Tim|
Oct 11, 2002 8:03 AM
|...so that guys like you can keep up with me!|| |