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Can't find Nirvana!(15 posts)

Can't find Nirvana!Jaybo
Oct 9, 2002 9:58 AM
I have a really nice road bike that I have built up with Ultegra, GT frame, and some very nice parts. I have a passion for mountain biking; however, I can't seem to find Nirvana on the road. It just feels boring to me. I'm not trying to be inflammatory but it just isn't nearly as much fun as mountain biking. I do it in the winter because I get tired of mud. Does anyone just do it for fitness insteed of bliss? I also find it is not nearly the workout as mountain biking--at least here in the NW with the singletrack climbs we have. I also not a fan of riding with cars. Not whining just wondering.
re: Can't find Nirvana!McAndrus
Oct 9, 2002 10:33 AM
The very aspects of road cycling you find uninteresting others find enjoyable - well, except for the cars maybe.

I prefer to ride in groups but I also very much enjoy riding solo for hours on end. I have a friend who says he seeks "the zone" when he's riding alone. In the zone the world goes away and he finds his "special place", if you will.

Oh, and if you think it's not a workout then perhaps you should find a group of Cat 3s and 2s and go on their training rides. You'll get a workout - I promise.
re: If I had a map I'd attach it.dzrider
Oct 9, 2002 11:12 AM
I often find it a few miles past tired and sometimes it pops up right after starting out stiff and sore from yesterday. This morning I couldn't find it on my way to work, but I was accelerating up a small hill after a right turn on red at lunch time and there it was. Sometimes I didn't know I was there until I left. It's pretty elusive for me so I've stopped looking for it.
I thought I found it once but it was a dead racoonPEDDLEFOOT
Oct 9, 2002 11:31 AM
re: Can't find Nirvana!lsg
Oct 9, 2002 12:03 PM
I was in the same position a few years ago, road riding just seemed like a chore. Now it's the opposite and I find "the zone " on my road bike and mountain bikng seems more like a hassle because of driving to the trails, get tired of riding same old trails and etc. I still love mt. biking but I am glad that I stuck with road riding long enough for it to become a pleasure as well.
Nirvana is out there....Gregory Taylor
Oct 9, 2002 1:08 PM
...it's just that on a road bike it won't jump up and bite you on the ass like it often does on a mountain bike. The pleasure of road biking can be very subtle, compared to mountain biking, especially on solo rides. Ripping smooth single track or wailing on a wicked downhill is inherently exciting. When I've hit the "zone" on a mountain bike, its been that disembodied state that occurs when you are processing lots of visual stimulation and sensory input that is coming at you FAST, sort of like playing a video game. The conscious brain shuts off, you are reacting to the terrain on instinct. It's very cool.

Road biking can be like that too -- ask anyone who has done a few criteriums. Violent accellerations, brutal cornering, lots of body english. Done solo, however, I find that falling into the "zone" in road biking is more meditative -- get into a groove with a fairly steady level of exertion, smooth transitions of effort when the road climbs or dips, flowing through curves. The conscious part of the brain recedes, and you start listening to your body more. For some reason, I think of the flowing bass run in Aerosmith's "Sweet Emotion" when it's all working together. Smooth and menacing...
re: Can't find Nirvana!Smoothie
Oct 9, 2002 1:25 PM
Jaybo -

One of the best things about road biking or mtn biking is the payoffs right? You just gotta find that zone on a road bike. In mtn biking getting into that zone makes you feel like you can clear anything the trail has to throw at you. You just have to find what that zone is for you on a road bike. For example climbing that nasty hill - than barreling down the hill at insane speeds! Or keeping up with a fast break, or better yet LEADING that break! Or for some people it's the views and getting away from the world and "unplugging". Getting back to simple stuff in life even if only for a few hours. Whatever your "payoff" is that's what makes it fun right?

Best thing to do is find a group of people to ride with. Riding in numbers adds to fun and keeps you somewhat safer with cars. Plus you'll push yourself more and get a great workout.

For solo rides try to spice it up - don't always leave the house and ride the same 30 mile loop or whatever. Set some goals before you go out riding - intervals, spinning (active recovery), sprints, beat the clock, etc...

Or just pick someplace you've always wanted to see and ride there - just find that "payoff" and i'm sure you'll enjoy road biking.
Is your question whether we only think that we're having fun orbill
Oct 9, 2002 2:17 PM
is it whether we mind NOT having fun?
I'll take both.
I realio, trulio believe that I'm having fun. The fitness is great, but the fitness just makes it more fun. I do it to have fun. Bottom line -- there is no other reason to do it. Too many other things to do.
I also believe that I know SOMETHING about fun. I'm not pulling rank or anything -- I don't claim extraordinary knowledge -- but I think I have done other fun things (Like what? I don't know, like whitewater rafting, non-white water tubing (try it some time, with a six-pack tied to your tube -- get this, you don't have to get up to pee!), snow-skiing, water skiing, playing guitar in front of 10,000 people -- okay, maybe 2,000, but still lots, all manner of sex, drugs, rock and roll (it's been awhile, but it was), Grateful Dead on New Years, having children, being married, etc., etc., and, yes, mountain biking).
So, I think that it really can be fun. Maybe not for you, for which I am sad, but for some of us. I'm sitting here with shaved legs, and you ask whether I have a passion? Maybe I'm a dork, but I'm a dork with a passion.
Unfettered, self-powered speed = best natural drugfbg111
Oct 9, 2002 3:27 PM
I just love going fast on a road bike. Simple as that. Like the question, which would you rather have, a Hummer on a safari, or a Ferrari on the empty streets of Monaco? I'd choose the latter. (but not by much).
Yupgrzy
Oct 9, 2002 3:55 PM
Mountain biking is super juicy and highly adicting. Road biking is a different kind of thing. What makes them both fun is having good friends to ride with. You can do everything right and still have some butthole in a car cut you off on your road bike, while on an MTB there are hardly ever any bad trips. I kind of see them as different sides of the same coin. I guess maybe it's the difference between skiing powder vs. groomed runs.
Last I heard it was in Seattle...empacher6seat
Oct 9, 2002 4:43 PM
posing as some grunge band... that was years ago though.
Try the music storeaeon
Oct 9, 2002 10:16 PM
Seriously though,

I'm gonna try racing next season, I'm sure thats good for a rush.
Singer gets crazy, band breaks up nmEl Caballito
Oct 10, 2002 12:22 AM
ahh
Yeah, and.....grzy
Oct 10, 2002 1:35 PM
...that song about him not having a gun was a lie.
Nirvana is freedom from suffering followed by enlightenment...Breakfast
Oct 10, 2002 6:37 AM
...so it is doubtful anyone can find Nirvana while on a bike.

What you seek, Grasshopper, can be found by ascending tall mountains with winding descents. If that doesn't do it for you enter a Cat 5 criterium.