|Dean has a new Seamless 6/4 TI frame...(Hey Akirasho)||Ride-Fly|
Oct 7, 2002 11:01 PM
|Saw your post about Airborne's new 6/4 Ti bike for $2500. I was just on Dean's website and saw that they are doing a seamless 6/4 Ti frame as well (but I forgot the name of course.) The cost was $3000. So for $500 more, do you think it a better deal for an American made frame and easier/better(?) customer service/warranty issues?? How is the Klein build coming???|
|if you're dead set on 'American Made'||weiwentg|
Oct 8, 2002 4:07 AM
|you may need to dispose of your computer. lots of computer parts are not made in the US. lots of them (particularly motherboards) are made in Taiwan. my TCR has this American flag with the caption 'Designed in America, Made in Taiwan'. this is just silly. my TCR rides just fine.
having said that, the advantage to Dean is that they'll custom build the frame. Torches will fit like 3- or 4-size compacts. I think Airborne's warranty dept is pretty OK, just send in the damaged frame to them. both companies have (I think) lifetime warranties.
|Dean Has An Even Better Deal Going....||Gregory Taylor|
Oct 8, 2002 5:11 AM
|...with their El Diente CTI framset. A 3/2.5 Ti framset with Columbus Carve seatstay. Order in October ($1500 smackers) and get the Uzo Pro fork for FREE. Great deal.
Dean's service is pretty good. You can always get someone on the phone, and chances are you will be talking directly with the person that will be doing the work.
The only downside (so far) is that they are a bit slow...I'm still waiting for the framset that will replace the late, lamented Culebra that I trashed on its maiden voyage. The hold up is with the powder coater, and the fact that Dean's staff has trooped off to 'Vegas for Interbike.
|Spectrum does good work, but they are S-L-O-W.||sn69|
Oct 8, 2002 5:56 AM
|re: El Diente Super Lite||Akirasho|
Oct 8, 2002 2:50 PM
|... if one were in the market for this particular frame material (dunno the exact specs on the Dean pipes) then it's certainly worth considering... considering a $500 difference (there's name brand recognition in using Reynolds tubing)... and that might be part of Airborne's underlying strategy... if the marketplace heats up with $3K+ seamless 6/4, then a $2.5K Airborne might yet again hit a market niche (remember, from a purely form and function verses cost POV, a Colnago C40 at those prices (including the new C40 HP) makes no sense... yet it fills a market niche... an expensive market niche (ditto the Litespeed Vortex)).
Also, I'd like to support American made goods whenever possible and/or practical (UAW) but I must admit an affinity towards Airborne seeing as how they're "local", thus I support my local economy (don't tell the boys and gurls at Airborne, but I've been researching Roark frames (made in Indy... just a two hour drive away)).
Also part deux, since they're just down the road, and I often see members of the staff at rides, races and such... I doubt that I'd experience any bad warranty issues (knock titanium).
There'll be no Klein build for a long while... yet another dog is at the vet... gettin' fixed... with two more to go, a new heater core for the truck and a new blower for the furnace... course, I've still got a few options.
Remain In Light.
Be the bike.
|Damn the dogs!!! ;^)||Ride-Fly|
Oct 8, 2002 9:16 PM
|better to build up that Klein than fixing your dogs!!!! LOL!!! I want to hear your opinions of the Klein ride because you seem to have A LOT of experience on other AL bikes. I love my Klein but as far as long term ride experiences go on other makers, I don't have that much. The QPro is on my very short list. Ride ON!!!|| |