|Bike choice advice||Overhill|
Oct 7, 2002 4:59 PM
|Which bike: Trek 5900; Klein Q-Pro Carbon; Lemond Tete de Course? All with same components. Recomendations? Why? Thanks.|
|none of the above.. c-40 all the way (nm)||Carbon fiber fanatik|
Oct 7, 2002 5:06 PM
|what sort of riding?||weiwentg|
Oct 7, 2002 6:12 PM
|short/medium RRs and crits (typical collegiate racer's diet)? Trek.
Longer RRs, centuries, long-distance riding? Lemond
Just Because: Klein. the paint schemes are SO pretty... but they look like they could do stage races as well as crits.
|Why categorize TREK as medium RR bike?||chazman|
Oct 7, 2002 7:10 PM
|The TREK 5900 (5200-5900) are carbon fiber and won the TDF which most will classify as a series of very long road rides. I would think this would classify it as a long road ride bike?|
Oct 7, 2002 7:45 PM
|I don't think this discussion was about racing. There are a lot of bikes ridden in the TdF that I personally don't want to ride a century on. The 5900 is probably one of them.|
Oct 7, 2002 7:46 PM
|RR. I read as... well... I think it refers to racing and I missed it.
It is late.
PS -- I still don't want to ride a century on a 5900.
|one can ride a century on anything...||weiwentg|
Oct 8, 2002 4:17 AM
|if I had to limit myself to only one bike, it might well be a 5900. however, I think I'd prefer a Lemond for a century, or for very long rides, due to the geometery. I did actually ride a century on my TCR, and that was in a very aggressive position (it was a pretty fast century, though). only concession to comfort was the ti seatpost I got in my weight-weenie phase.
I'm sorry if I mis-characterized anything. I'm not knocking the Trek, and would gladly do a century on one. it's just that if I could get a Trek, Klien and a Lemond, I'd use each one for the stated purpose.
the Klein, by the way, would be hanging in the living room. :)
|re: Bike choice advice||the other Tim|
Oct 7, 2002 9:07 PM
|Visited the Trek dealer today, eh?
I have the LeMond and Klein frames, both with DA components, same saddle, same bars, wheels get swapped. You could not make me choose between them, but I'm in no hurry to get a Trek. They are both so beautiful and great rides.
I ride the LeMond very much more, not because of the ride quality, but because it seems more durable. The Klein is more fun to ride as well as to look at, but the down tube has a wall thickness comparable to a beer can, and the paint is flawless. I don't feel any need to baby the LeMond. I usually take the Klein out for my early Sunday morning rides, but I've compared them on the same ride with the same wheels, and I am definitely faster on the Klein. I don't race, but I push myself. If I did race, it would be on the Klein, but I would still ride the LeMond more.
I don't have anything against Treks, except that they're ugly. I'm just more of a metal lover.
I guess I would have to say get all three.
|re: Bike choice advice||Overhill|
Oct 8, 2002 4:02 AM
|Thanks to all for input.Can't afford Colnago C-40.
I ride an occasional race and a few centuries, sometimes up to 150 miles. Ride with local club racers on 30-40 mile training rides weekly, pretty hard.
The Klein is beautiful, and I've always admired them-butI might be afraid to lean it against a tree at a rest stop.
Tim:why do you think you are faster on the Klein? Do you notice the geometry/angle differences with the Lemond [and yes, I did visit the Trek dealer].
|re: Bike choice advice||the other Tim|
Oct 8, 2002 11:21 AM
|It's probably the geometry, stiffness and inspiration. I have a 30 mile ride I do early Sunday mornings when there's no traffic, usually no wind and temps are in the 60s. I give it all I've got. I average over 3 minutes faster on the Klein. I haven't really analyzed it, but my instinct tells me that I've got more energy in the last 5 miles with the Klein. It would be interesting to have some data logger hooked up to the computer. Also, when I stand up, I notice more lateral flex in the LeMond. My guess is that's where some of that energy is being lost.
BTW, I did intentionally say that the Ti bike
more durable. I haven't stress tested either of them. You can safely lean the Klein against a tree. The paint is really tough.
You're choosing between three excelent, but different bikes. Still, you'll probably love any of them. I would want the Klein for those 30-40 rides with racers, and the LeMond for centuries, but only because of the confidence I have in it - both bikes offer long-ride comfort in my experience. And the Trek might actually be better for both purposes (but it would still be ugly).
|Where's onespeed? nm||fbg111|
Oct 8, 2002 6:51 AM
|re: Bike choice advice||outofthesaddle|
Oct 8, 2002 7:56 AM
|Overhill - I like the 5900. I spent the past few months agonizing over the choice between the C40 and 5900. I chose the 5900 over C40 mostly for fit reasons. With the longer tt, the 5900 fit me much better than the C40. Also, I have a 5200 that I really like. The 5900 was delivered last Thur and I rode it in a hill climb (Mt. Diablo Challenge) on Sun. What a great climber! In the beginning of November, I plan on riding it at the Death Valley double century.
By the way, the price on the C40 wasn't dramatically different from the 5900. Because I wanted Ksyrium wheelset, I had Gary Hobbs (GVH) build it. I saved about $800 over LBS plus I got an '03 (instead of '02 at LBS), a Zepp stem, and Prima 199 bar.
Good luck in you choice.
|I would agree on the prices...||mmquest|
Oct 8, 2002 9:33 AM
|from what I've seen, if you can afford a 5900, you should be able to afford a C40, especially if you get creative on where you find the 'Nago. NOT to say that the C40 is better etc, etc, b/c I don't want to get into that...;)|| |