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Need help with frame and wheel question(10 posts)

Need help with frame and wheel questionJon in CT
Oct 5, 2002 5:07 PM
I just won a new bike (Giant TCR 2) from performancebike.com in the Fantasy Cycling competition for the Vuelta. I was thinking about selling it and upgrading my current rig (Fuji Team Issue w/ Ultegra) but some of the guys I race with think I'll like the compact frame better than what I'm riding now.

My question is this: does anyone out there know anything about Giant's alluminum or carbon TCR frames and how they work for big (6'1" & 185 lbs) sprinters vs. classic geometry frames?

The frame I'm on now is Scandium with carbon seat stays and fork. I like the ride a lot (smooth and great through corners), but the BB feels a little flexy when I'm out of the saddle.

Also, I'm considering a wheel upgrade. I use old Mavic Cosmic Pros for TTs (and have won a couple crits and primes on them) but mostly I ride Open Pros with Ultegra hubs. What do you guys think would be a good wheel for me considering I'm a "crit guy"? Not surprisingly, I'm looking for something stiff that spins up quickly that's not too much of a "pig" (I've got enough to carry up hills during the RRs).

Thanks,
Jon in CT
Where in CT r u from? (nm)jtferraro
Oct 6, 2002 5:09 PM
Where in CT r u from? (nm)Jon in CT
Oct 7, 2002 4:43 AM
Hartford area...will be racing for UConn and CVC/Pig Iron next season
Me too...jtferraro
Oct 7, 2002 6:31 AM
Jon,

I work in downtown Hartford and live in West Hartford. That's great that you'll be racing next season. What CAT? I've been a mountain biker for years and was finally really turned on to road biking this past spring. Unfortunately, I still haven't purchased my road bike, as I'm saving up the dough and reading/researching still. I've narrowed it down to a few, though. I've been mountain and road biking w/my C'dale F700 and have a set of slicks for road use. I'd done a couple of centuries on it and even started commuting to work now that the weather is a bit cooler. NEway, I think I'd like to get into some CAT5 racing next season, too - we'll see, althogh I really need that bike and some group ride experience first! ;-) Just curious, what kind of bike are you on? Where do you usually ride?

-Jeff
That's right - the Fuji Team w/Ultegra (just reread your post)!jtferraro
Oct 7, 2002 6:37 AM
Congratulations on winning the Giant TCR!

-Jeff
Me too...Jon in CT
Oct 7, 2002 9:13 AM
Jeff,

Oddly enough, I also work in downtown Hartford and live in W. Htfd.

I'm currently a Cat 4 (just finished my 2nd season) without a ton of USCF races (only 3 this season: 2 top-10 finishes, the other top-20; caught in a last lap crash)...but that changes next year. I'll be doing 30+ races in 2003. CVC wants me to move up quickly and help in the Pro/1/2/(3) races.

I am working in the off season to be able to upgrade to Cat 2 by the end of next year (yes...Cat 2). I've been told that I already have the sprint and "crit" fitness to do this by other Cat 2s I ride with and have raced against in local training races (Manchester Crit). By the way...going from Cat 4 to Cat 3 is knowing how to race more than fitness...but you'll learn that soon enough ;^}.

As far as rides go, I teach 5 Spinning classes a week (2 on Mon. & 3 on Wed.) and ride up in the UConn area about 6 - 8 hours a week. On weekends I ride from my house up into Mass or Litchfield (3 - 4 hours on Saturday or Sunday).

Let me know when you get your bike. If you don't have something yet, I might be able to help out; my neighbor is the owner of Pig Iron in Glastonbury. Also, if you need any advice for your racing, I'd be happy to offer what info I can.

P.S. I also did my first century on my MTB with slicks (5 hrs. 18 min.). BIG difference when you get a real road setup.
NO?! ;-)jtferraro
Oct 7, 2002 8:23 PM
I live close to WH Center and work for Fleet, downtown. Where do you work?

Congrats on a great season! Excuse my ignorance here, but what is CVC? Is this Pig Iron's race team? Speaking of Pig Iron, it is one of the few shops I haven't visited yet(but have been wanting to). I'll definitely have to stop in. What brand bikes do they carry?

Where do you teach the spinning classes? I'm planning on taking one this fall/winter! Your weekend rides sound scenic. I especially love Litchfield County!

That is quite a great time for your first century! I think it took me 6 hrs., 51 mins. Here's my write-up:
jtferraro "Well, I did it! My first century...and on a mountain bike.." 7/22/02 1:50pm

-Jeff
wheelsweiwentg
Oct 7, 2002 5:07 AM
Open Pros on Ultegras should actually work fine. you don't NEED anything fancier. if you WANT anything fancier, just get it (funds permitting). at your weight, I would consider Ks, or Neutron/Nucleons if I wanted fancy. I think you're over the weight limit on the Am Classic 350g rim, but you could also consider one of their 420 wheelsets (420g rim, 16-20 spokes front, 20-24 rear, 34mm section).
personally, I'd sell off the TCR's wheels, and put your OPs on it for crits. I do not know how TCRs work for bigger guys. I don't think there are any issues at all. one of the local Cat 1 teams used to be sponsored by Giant. they're not sponsored anymore because they're now under Orbea, not because the they didn't like the frames. one of the guys was pretty big, roughly your dimensions. he never bad-mouthed the frames, and he still has an OCR Elite with lots of good stuff on it. there is little difference between compact and standard frames. compact offers more standover. it may also be stiffer; however, I can't corroborate, since I weigh nearly 70lbs less than you.
before you actually sell anything, give the TCR a try.
wheelsJon in CT
Oct 7, 2002 8:56 AM
Thanks for the reply; makes the decision easier
re: Need help with frame and wheel questionbike4tennis
Oct 21, 2002 1:54 PM
I would like to purchase the fuji team bike, but I am fearful from reviews i have read, they mention that it flexes if your over 160lbs
I range from 170 and looking for a 52cm bike any advice you can give me